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Post by Ann - Tx on Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:24 pm


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018563782_apusmissingmomutah.html
The Seattle Times - Seattle, WA 6/29/12

Steven Powell may be released from prison in year

The father-in-law of missing Utah woman Susan Powell may be released from prison in less than a year, despite being convicted of 14 voyeurism counts.

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Post by Estee on Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:58 pm

That is SICKENING... barf
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Post by Sherry on Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:03 am

Estee wrote:That is SICKENING... barf
Share the toilet, Estee! barf
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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:14 pm

LOCAL Non Profit HONORING Braden & Charlie Powell!


After the deaths of Charlie and Braden Powell, a local non-profit is honoring their memory by helping foster children in Pierce County - turning tragedy into hope.

Down a dirt driveway in Spanaway are things that little girls and boys love - dirt, loud trucks and dinosaurs.

"I imagine today they're going to be frolicking around with us - we just don't see them," says Denise Cox, Charlie and Braden's aunt.


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Powell-boys-legacy-Helping-abused-neglected-kids-160971675.html

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Post by Justice4all on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:47 pm

Susan Powell’s parents visit Utah, say the Osmonds are helping them

Mortgage problem » The house where Susan Powell was last seen has debts greater than its worth.

By nate carlisle
The Salt Lake Tribune
July 9, 2012

The parents of missing woman Susan Powell arrived in Utah on Monday to examine her West Valley City home and talk about a memorial to her and her sons.

Powell’s father, Chuck Cox, said Utah’s famous showbiz family, the Osmonds, want to help raise money for a memorial. Cox said he didn’t know what which members of the Osmond clan would participate or what they would do to raise the money.


Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54457598-78/powell-cox-josh-west.html.csp
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Post by Justice4all on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:50 pm

Prosecutors say they want porn charge against Steven Powell reinstated

By Pat Reavy
July 9th, 2012 @ 2:54pm

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While considering pre-trial issues in May, Pierce County Superior Court Judge Ronald Culpepper dismissed a charge of possession of child pornography against Powell.

Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said while his office is not appealing Powell's sentence, they are appealing the decision to dismiss that charge. Just because prosecutors won at trial doesn't mean they agree that every ruling during the case was correct, he said.


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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:43 pm

Justice4all wrote:Susan Powell’s parents visit Utah, say the Osmonds are helping them

Mortgage problem » The house where Susan Powell was last seen has debts greater than its worth.

By nate carlisle
The Salt Lake Tribune
July 9, 2012

The parents of missing woman Susan Powell arrived in Utah on Monday to examine her West Valley City home and talk about a memorial to her and her sons.

Powell’s father, Chuck Cox, said Utah’s famous showbiz family, the Osmonds, want to help raise money for a memorial. Cox said he didn’t know what which members of the Osmond clan would participate or what they would do to raise the money.


Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54457598-78/powell-cox-josh-west.html.csp

J4A, I don't understand why the debt of Susan's house falls on the Coxes'. It seems the note must be a couple of years behind, I doubt Josh paid the house notes but IDK. If Susan has been gone for 2 yrs., I always wondered how Steven so quickly moved after Susan's disappearance & in w/the pervert Steven, he basically abandoned the house he & Susan & the boy's lived in. The only thing I can think of is that the house note must have been in Susan's name but still, the note had to be paid. Since Susan doesn't really have any assets & 40% of American's are upset down on the homes being worth less than they paid, why haven't the Coxes allowed it to be foreclosed on? **

Here are some additional links

The Osmonds 'to help fund' memorial for missing Susan Powell months after her estranged husband killed himself and their two sons in house explosion

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171531/The-Osmonds-help-fund-memorial-missing-Susan-Powell-months-estranged-husband-killed-sons-house-explosion.html#ixzz20FJlY67W

** (J4A, this explains why the Coxes have possession of the house but I still don't understand how the note has been paid.)

But Cox said the primary reason for his Utah trip was to decide what to do with the West Valley City house. Cox and his family inherited it after Josh Powell’s death.

There are two mortgages on the house at 6254 W. Sarah Circle (3945 South) and the home is worth less than is owed, Cox said. At present, Cox said, his daughter’s estate has no other assets, though the Coxes have joined a lawsuit seeking funds from Josh and Susan Powell’s life insurance policy. Cox said he hasn’t decided yet what to do with the house.


http://fox13now.com/2012/07/09/susan-cox-powells-parents-raising-money-for-a-memorial/

I guess it isn't suprising that the Osmond's are helping the Coxes', it's a wonderful thing, too, they all Mormons & have that connection too.



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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:19 pm

Bremner FINALLY gets agressive for the Cox Family, A Court Date has been set for the Civil Dispute!

Anne Bremner, a Washington attorney who represents the missing mom’s estate and her parents, filed an appeal on Friday with the West Valley City Council after the police department and city manager rejected her request for "any and all investigative files" related to the disappearance of the young mother on Dec. 7, 2009.

A suicide, a double murder and a missing mom
Joshua Powell, the only publicly named person of interest in Susan Cox Powell’s disappearance, killed himself and the couple’s two young sons in February by setting fire to his rented home in Graham, Wash. Susan remains missing, and her parents have said publicly they believe she is dead.

Coxes want to collect on insurance policies
In a separate action, Chuck and Judy Cox, Susan Cox Powell’s parents, are seeking proceeds to insurance policies issued in the names of their daughter and grandsons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5. A trial in that civil dispute is set for October 2013.


Bremner requested the records from the West Valley City Police Department in April. She filed a similar request with the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office at the same time.

West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell denied Bremner’s request in May. City Manager Wayne Pyle upheld that denial in June. Bremner said that Pierce County told her it wanted to delay a response until after it finished prosecution of Steven Powell, Susan’s father-in-law, on voyeurism charges and pending a lawsuit filed on behalf of his victims. Steve Powell was sentenced in June and Bremner has filed a notice of intent to pursue a civil lawsuit.

In the appeal sent to the West Valley City Council, which is charged with hearing records appeals, Bremner asked for all incident and investigative reports, forensic and evidence reports, witness and suspect statements, audio, video and surveillance recordings, photographs and reports and communication from any other law enforcement agencies.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54589779-78/bremner-powell-request-valley.html.csp


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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:31 pm

APPEAL filed on Behalf of the Cox family!

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=21491964

Life moves on for most of us, day after day, but for families like those of Susan Cox, her parent's like many victim's families are left to clean up the aftermath, to bury their loved one's, to grieve, to seek justice, & to sort out the legal affairs left. My heart really breaks for the Cox family, they are incredibily loving & kind people that tried to protect Charlie & Braden, they are still looking for Susan's remains, I hope Bremner is successful in getting some Justice, even if it is only in a Civil suit.

I hope they are successful in getting the proceeds to the Insurance Josh so cleverly, so he thought, left to his siblings, 1.5 million. I hope they don't get a freakin dime, especally on the 1/2 million which was on Braden/Charlie. After all, Josh MURDERED the boys, then his siblings called only days later to collect the proceeds on the insurance polices.


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Post by Justice4all on Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:00 pm

Report: Wash. could have done more in Powell case

MIKE BAKER, Associated Press
Updated 10:28 a.m., Thursday, August 2, 2012

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Social workers tasked with protecting the children of Josh Powell did not consult with law enforcement or explore his potentially violent past before allowing him to host supervised visits at his home, a panel found Thursday.

The report concluded that the Washington Department of Social and Health Services should "make concerted efforts" to check with detectives prior to making changes in parent-child contacts when there is an active investigation. Authorities have been investigating the 2009 disappearance of Powell's wife, Susan Powell, from their Utah home.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Report-Wash-could-have-done-more-in-Powell-case-3757274.php
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:09 pm

Justice4all wrote:Report: Wash. could have done more in Powell case

MIKE BAKER, Associated Press
Updated 10:28 a.m., Thursday, August 2, 2012

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Social workers tasked with protecting the children of Josh Powell did not consult with law enforcement or explore his potentially violent past before allowing him to host supervised visits at his home, a panel found Thursday.

The report concluded that the Washington Department of Social and Health Services should "make concerted efforts" to check with detectives prior to making changes in parent-child contacts when there is an active investigation. Authorities have been investigating the 2009 disappearance of Powell's wife, Susan Powell, from their Utah home.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Report-Wash-could-have-done-more-in-Powell-case-3757274.php

J4A, This is good news that this has been made public, Chuck Cox said they "had attorney's that were going to get the bottom of exactly who was responsibile for allowing Josh to see the boy's at his pretend home instead of a public place." Despite the begging of the Coxes, the social worker's ignored their pleas as did the Judge, now I assume the Social worker's are going to promptly have a Civil Suit filed against them by Bremner/Coxes. The fact is, the Coxes repeatedly begged for an additional social worker due to their fear Josh would hurt the children but they again ignored the families fears as did the Judge.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:49 pm

Justice4all wrote:Prosecutors say they want porn charge against Steven Powell reinstated

By Pat Reavy
July 9th, 2012 @ 2:54pm

~Snipped~

While considering pre-trial issues in May, Pierce County Superior Court Judge Ronald Culpepper dismissed a charge of possession of child pornography against Powell.

Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said while his office is not appealing Powell's sentence, they are appealing the decision to dismiss that charge. Just because prosecutors won at trial doesn't mean they agree that every ruling during the case was correct, he said.


Read more: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=21181721
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:58 pm

Washington faces lawsuit over handling of Powell case

by Associated Press and KING 5 News
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Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Attorneys are preparing to sue the state of Washington over how social workers handled the children of Josh Powell.

Lawyer Anne Bremner said the case will be filed Friday on behalf of Susan Cox Powell, who went missing in 2009. A guardian ad litem has been appointed to represent her. Josh Powell killed himself and the couple's two young children during a supervised visit earlier this year.

Bremner has represented the parents of Susan Powell. She says they want to see changes in how the state handles these cases, such as less focus on trying to immediately reunify parents with their children

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Post by Justice4all on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:10 pm

Susan Powell’s parents to sue Washington over grandchildren murders

Updated: 8/3/12 9:04 pm
Reported by: Noah Bond



WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) – Susan Powell’s parents filing a lawsuit against Washington State because of apparent breakdowns in the system designed to keep their grandchildren safe.

"They did have the warning signs and supposedly they're the professionals. It's their job to figure this stuff out,” said Susan’s father, Chuck Cox. "The children, we miss them, but we know they're with their mother.”

Chuck and Judy Cox worked with the West Valley Police Department and social workers in Washington, yet their two grandchildren were murdered by the hands of their own father, Josh Powell.

Read more: http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Susan-Powell-s-parents-to-sue-Washington-over/ksG41ZsA8k-UnTkKQ3dNEg.cspx
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:19 am

Mom files civil suit against voyeur Steven Powell

Steven Craig Powell faces more legal action stemming from his surreptitious videotaping of two neighbor girls while they bathed or used the toilet.

Published: Aug. 7, 2012 at 12:05 a.m. PDT — Updated: Aug. 7, 2012 at 6:46 a.m. PDT

Steven Craig Powell faces more legal action stemming from his surreptitious videotaping of two neighbor girls while they bathed or used the toilet.

The girls’ mother filed a civil lawsuit against Powell, 62, last week in Pierce County Superior Court. The woman seeks undisclosed damages on behalf of her daughters for invasion of privacy and “severe emotional distress.”

“Defendant Steven Powell’s offensive and unlawful conduct of watching and filming plaintiff’s most intimate private affairs was extreme and outrageous in that it went beyond all possible bounds of decency and is utterly intolerable in a civilized society,” the woman’s attorney, Anne Bremner, wrote in the lawsuit.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/08/07/2245078/mom-files-civil-suit-vs-voyeur.html#storylink=cpy
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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:37 pm

From Alessandra's link:
DSHS responded Thursday with a press release, saying the review committee also “concluded that nobody could have anticipated that Joshua Powell would murder his two sons. According to the committee, the work of all agencies and individuals involved demonstrated the highest concern for the children’s health, safety and welfare.”

DSHS says the recommendations will help efforts to keep children safe.


I scream B U L L C H I T! COUNTLESS people knew the children were in danger, imo DSHS sounded embarassingly INEPT as usual especially when murder is involved!

The Coxes & their lawyer pleaded & begged the Judge, the Social Agency, the social worker, about their concerns for the safety of the children.

It was the Social worker & the Agency that made the decision to see Josh ALONE at his pretend home INSTEAD of a public place because people stared at Josh Powell. OUTRAGEOUS! They made a decision that ultimately gave Josh the opportunity to murder the boy's. Chuck Cox BEGGED repeatedly that the kids be supervised by a male Social worker or workers as the female social worker could NOT PROTECT the children. The AGENCY knows this, they are LYING to the public to state differently BUT I have confidence their agency is going to be exposed. Those DEPOSITIONS by Bremner are going to EXPOSE them for their inadequencies in this case imo.

There is enough blame to go around, the original investigating LE agency withheld VITAL INFORMATION about Josh & didn't turn it over to LE presently investigating until the psychologist was writing an assessment on Josh that was due to the Judge before the next hearing.

The hearing resulted in: a psychosexual evaluation & a polygraph test were ordered on Josh BUT the JUDGE could have changed the visitation, she didn't ALTHOUGH she had knowledge of the graphic porn on Josh's computer involving children. Josh & everybody else involved in this case knew Josh could NOT pass the test, even Josh's attorney has acknowledged it, Josh's own attorney had concerns, but hey, he worked for Josh.

The LE agency that that was investigating Josh for the murder of Susan KEPT PROMISING the Coxes/Bremner, "anyday, anyday, we are going to ARREST Josh for the murder of Susan." That never happened & to this day, have NOT BEEN cooperative with the Cox Family NOR Bremner CLAIMING that it is an "ongoing investigation!" Yea, imo, GOING nowhere, they do not want to expose their participation in this collasal crock of an investigation. Bremner feels since filing the Civil Suit for the Coxes, she will be able to get alot of this information.

Sorry for the rant, my blood boils to think Susan left a note expressing she was afraid Josh was going to kill her. Inept investigation, 2 law enforcement agencies FAILING to work together for an immediate arrest of Josh & the ineptitude of the Social Agency led, imo, to the murder of 2 precious children. No one ever seems to take any personal responsibility, especially when it results in murder, I certainly don't expect anything differently now. The Coxes/Bremner are determined to hold ALL the people involved with Civil Suits & expose them, I wish them Godspeed, 3 innocent people murdered by a sociopath.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:13 pm

Records: Utah mom case probed as murder from start

Originally published Tuesday, August 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Authorities investigating the 2009 disappearance of a Utah mother almost immediately began classifying the case as a murder and kidnapping probe as they focused largely on the woman's husband, according to heavily redacted court documents released Tuesday.

BY BRIAN SKOLOFF
Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY —
Authorities investigating the 2009 disappearance of a Utah mother almost immediately began classifying the case as a murder and kidnapping probe as they focused largely on the woman's husband, according to heavily redacted court documents released Tuesday.

The roughly 800 pages of documents provide scant new details in the case of Susan Powell's disappearance or the ensuing investigation of her husband, Josh Powell, who earlier this year killed himself and the couple's two young sons at a home in Washington state.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2018868570_apusmissingmomutah3rdldwritethru.html
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Post by wonderingwhy on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:24 pm

art tart wrote:From Alessandra's link:
DSHS responded Thursday with a press release, saying the review committee also “concluded that nobody could have anticipated that Joshua Powell would murder his two sons. According to the committee, the work of all agencies and individuals involved demonstrated the highest concern for the children’s health, safety and welfare.”

DSHS says the recommendations will help efforts to keep children safe.


I scream B U L L C H I T! COUNTLESS people knew the children were in danger, imo DSHS sounded embarassingly INEPT as usual especially when murder is involved!

The Coxes & their lawyer pleaded & begged the Judge, the Social Agency, the social worker, about their concerns for the safety of the children.

It was the Social worker & the Agency that made the decision to see Josh ALONE at his pretend home INSTEAD of a public place because people stared at Josh Powell. OUTRAGEOUS! They made a decision that ultimately gave Josh the opportunity to murder the boy's. Chuck Cox BEGGED repeatedly that the kids be supervised by a male Social worker or workers as the female social worker could NOT PROTECT the children. The AGENCY knows this, they are LYING to the public to state differently BUT I have confidence their agency is going to be exposed. Those DEPOSITIONS by Bremner are going to EXPOSE them for their inadequencies in this case imo.

There is enough blame to go around, the original investigating LE agency withheld VITAL INFORMATION about Josh & didn't turn it over to LE presently investigating until the psychologist was writing an assessment on Josh that was due to the Judge before the next hearing.

The hearing resulted in: a psychosexual evaluation & a polygraph test were ordered on Josh BUT the JUDGE could have changed the visitation, she didn't ALTHOUGH she had knowledge of the graphic porn on Josh's computer involving children. Josh & everybody else involved in this case knew Josh could NOT pass the test, even Josh's attorney has acknowledged it, Josh's own attorney had concerns, but hey, he worked for Josh.

The LE agency that that was investigating Josh for the murder of Susan KEPT PROMISING the Coxes/Bremner, "anyday, anyday, we are going to ARREST Josh for the murder of Susan." That never happened & to this day, have NOT BEEN cooperative with the Cox Family NOR Bremner CLAIMING that it is an "ongoing investigation!" Yea, imo, GOING nowhere, they do not want to expose their participation in this collasal crock of an investigation. Bremner feels since filing the Civil Suit for the Coxes, she will be able to get alot of this information.

Sorry for the rant, my blood boils to think Susan left a note expressing she was afraid Josh was going to kill her. Inept investigation, 2 law enforcement agencies FAILING to work together for an immediate arrest of Josh & the ineptitude of the Social Agency led, imo, to the murder of 2 precious children. No one ever seems to take any personal responsibility, especially when it results in murder, I certainly don't expect anything differently now. The Coxes/Bremner are determined to hold ALL the people involved with Civil Suits & expose them, I wish them Godspeed, 3 innocent people murdered by a sociopath.

Very good post Art Tart..I totally agree with you..Many agencies dropped the ball on this one..
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:22 am

wonderingwhy shared:

Very good post Art Tart..I totally agree with you..Many agencies dropped the ball on this one...

wondering why, last night I was reading about Jaycee Dugard's successful Civil Suit against one of the agencies in her case that was inept by not performing their job appropriately & was awarded 20 million dollars. She is having more difficulty in her suit against another agency, a different Civil Suit in her case.

Chuck Cox is outraged, as he should be at ALL the agencies that let Charlie//Braden down & the forseeable danger the children were placed in repeatedly. Cox even got a "guardian ad litem" for the children, but IF COURT'S don't listen to those pleading for the safety of children & consider children's safety MORE IMPORTANT than a parent's right, imo, they should monetarily PAY when children are harmed.

Civil Suits ONLY provide a measure of Justice for victim's families, but more importantly, the Coxes' want this exposed to hopefully change laws regarding children & biological parent's, the rights of the children to feel safe & have stability should come first, BEFORE any right of a biological parent.

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Post by wonderingwhy on Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:13 pm

art tart wrote:
wonderingwhy shared:

Very good post Art Tart..I totally agree with you..Many agencies dropped the ball on this one...

wondering why, last night I was reading about Jaycee Dugard's successful Civil Suit against one of the agencies in her case that was inept by not performing their job appropriately & was awarded 20 million dollars. She is having more difficulty in her suit against another agency, a different Civil Suit in her case.

Chuck Cox is outraged, as he should be at ALL the agencies that let Charlie//Braden down & the forseeable danger the children were placed in repeatedly. Cox even got a "guardian ad litem" for the children, but IF COURT'S don't listen to those pleading for the safety of children & consider children's safety MORE IMPORTANT than a parent's right, imo, they should monetarily PAY when children are harmed.



Civil Suits ONLY provide a measure of Justice for victim's families, but more importantly, the Coxes' want this exposed to hopefully change laws regarding children & biological parent's, the rights of the children to feel safe & have stability should come first, BEFORE any right of a biological parent.




Yes, the whole thing was very badly handled, from the LE in Utah on to all the WA agencies..
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:15 pm

Steven Powell's OBSESSION with Susan!

Starting in 2003, Powell writes at length about his growing obsession for the woman his son, Josh, married. An early entry has Powell admitting that falling in love with Susan Powell is his greatest problem and greatest pleasure, adding "I can hardly control myself when it comes to her."

Powell's thoughts and fantasies take up 17 spiral notebooks that were among evidence seized from his Puyallup home last year during a search in connection with the 2009 disappearance of Susan Powell. Excerpts have been published in the News Tribune.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/719614/Journal-reveals-sexual-obsession-in-Powell-case

Among the more disturbing entries are Powell's admission that he made secret videos of Susan that he used for sexual gratification and that he slid a handheld mirror under a bathroom door to watch her. He concedes in his journal that others might find that "sick," asking: "who looks under the bathroom door with a mirror?"

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/54656690-78/powell-journals-susan-love.html.csp


I didn't think the POS could get any creepier but he has! To think that this psycho could be on the street's in a year scares the hell out of me.


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Post by Julie on Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:29 pm

NancyGraceHLN 2,300 pages released from secret diary of father-in-law of missing mom Susan Powell, full of sexual fantasies about her #CreepySexDiaries
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Post by Julie on Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:32 pm


Nancy Grace: ‘I’m voting for creepy’


By HLNtv.com Staff

updated 1:54 PM EDT, Wed August 15, 2012

•Graphic diaries from Susan Powell's father-in-law emerge
•Steve Powell details extreme obsession with daughter-in-law




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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Freckles on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:13 pm

As soon as they PD got their hands on the diary of Powell, he should have been arrested for murder. There is enough there to point to this man as being complicit in Susan's death. Jealousy, rage, anger, rejection. Don't really care. He is exactly as Susan reported to her mother.

IMO, Susan's husband either had a direct hand in her death or he intentionally left with the boys so his father could take advantage of Susan. Both were involved.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:12 pm

Sex diaries emerge in Susan Powell case

By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 1:53 PM EDT, Wed August 15, 2012

•Graphic diaries from Susan Powell's father-in-law emerge
•Steve Powell details extreme obsession with daughter-in-law



http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/08/15/sex-diaries-emerge-susan-powell-case
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by snowbird on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:51 pm

I watch Nancy Grace last night she said a couple of times that he gives hints of where her body could be, she never said what the hints were that was given. Does any body else know if he talked in dairies about where her body is located?
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:59 pm

Freckles wrote:As soon as they PD got their hands on the diary of Powell, he should have been arrested for murder. There is enough there to point to this man as being complicit in Susan's death. Jealousy, rage, anger, rejection. Don't really care. He is exactly as Susan reported to her mother.

IMO, Susan's husband either had a direct hand in her death or he intentionally left with the boys so his father could take advantage of Susan. Both were involved.

Freckles, Police conficscated 17 spiral notebook diaries of Steven P. about Susan P. months ago, Josh P. imo, MURDERED Susan P alone as Steven had an alibi, Josh didn't. Steven made no apologies for his lust or love for Susan in National Media. It's ironic the search of the home was in fact for the diaries of Susan as a teenager, both Steven & Josh made the media circuit threatening to release them to the media. The voyerism tapes were too discovered of Steven's which led to his arrest during the search for Susan's diaries. The Coxes/Bremner speculate Susan was poisoned & Susan was suspicious of Josh's interest in starting to cook after years of marriage.

Despite the letter Susan left in a safety deposit box expressing her fear of being murdered by Josh, nothing was done, he in fact not only murdered her, but Charlie & Braden too. Susan's children reported to a school teacher that "mommy was in the trunk the night they went camping, but she didn't come back with them." Josh dumped Susan's remains the night of her murder with her children in the car.

Steven P took a few days off from work AFTER the night Susan disappeared. imo, to help Josh probably move or bury Susan's remains. Josh & Susan didn't live in the same city as Steven, Susan was threatening to divorce Josh & take the boy's, something Josh couldn't stand for & didn't. Susan made ALL the money, not Josh. Josh P should have been arrested during the same Search of Steven's home for the graphic porn involving children on his computer, for lying to LE, blood found the first night of Susan's disappearance & despite promises of arrest repeatedly by LE to the Coxes/Bremner, they did nothing.

Steven P., imo, didn't murder Susan nor is there any evidence he did, Josh had the motive for murder, Steven didn't, though Steven does have knowledge imo. He is no doubt a freak, pervert, menace to society, creepy, & imo, has full knowledge of where Susan's remains are buried. Steven is not now or ever has been a suspect in Susan's murder because there is no evidence to suggest it, ONLY Josh was & still is the only suspect in Susan's murder. imo, Steven is an accessory after the fact, he too helped Josh w/Charlie & Braden & disposing of anything incriminating. Shortly after Susan's disappearance, Josh packed the boy's up & moved to another town & in with w/Steven & Josh's siblings, hoping to put distance between the murder of Susan & himself.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Justice4all on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:17 pm

Attorney will again request Susan Powell records

By Pat Reavy
August 21st, 2012 @ 2:23pm

WEST VALLEY CITY — The attorney for the parents of Susan Cox Powell will make another request Tuesday night to have police records released, this time in front of the West Valley City Council.

Anne Bremner wants the West Valley City Police Department to release its reports regarding their investigation into the disappearance of Susan Powell. Powell has been missing from her West Valley home since December of 2009 and is presumed dead. Her husband, Josh Powell — whom detectives were investigating for kidnapping and possible murder — killed himself and murdered his two young sons in Washington in February.

Bremner has twice asked West Valley to release the records and has twice been rejected. Third District Judge Judith Atherton released redacted versions of search warrants and other reports two weeks ago.

Read more: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=21806092
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:24 pm

Chuck Cox reacts to bizarre Powell diary

By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 4:52 PM EDT, Tue August 21, 2012

•Father of missing woman Susan Cox-Powell calls Steven Powell's journals 'twisted'
•Cox: 'He's sick...It was all in his mind'
•Cox says family believes father-in-law knows where Susan is

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Stolat on Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:53 am

Here is the #1 reason why in America today - these sick F*cks are ALLOWED to harm and kill our babies.

“There’s very good reason to think that Josh Powell caused the death of his wife,” Judge Culpepper said. “People want someone to be punished.”

But, the judge cautioned, people should be punished for what they did. He noted that Steven Powell has a sexual deviancy, and said he should serve more than what is typical for voyeurism cases. However, he called prosecutors’ request for 10 years “excessive.”

THIS is the problem in America. A FAILURE in MEN in judicial positions to recognize that ANY sexual deviance toward children is as GOOD as MURDERING them. 10 Years is NOT long enough. ALL of these predators should be put away for LIFE. Not 10 Years. Not 30 months.

Do these people even have children ????? Would they want THEIR kids treated this way because THEY made it possible for it to happen?????

I wanna puke.

I hope they move Steven Powell RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Judge Culpepper and force the judge to allow his kids or grandkids to play outside in front of Steve Powell and see how he likes it.

http://fox13now.com/2012/06/15/sentencing-today-for-steven-powell/
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:13 am

Justice4all wrote:Attorney will again request Susan Powell records

By Pat Reavy
August 21st, 2012 @ 2:23pm

WEST VALLEY CITY — The attorney for the parents of Susan Cox Powell will make another request Tuesday night to have police records released, this time in front of the West Valley City Council.

Anne Bremner wants the West Valley City Police Department to release its reports regarding their investigation into the disappearance of Susan Powell. Powell has been missing from her West Valley home since December of 2009 and is presumed dead. Her husband, Josh Powell — whom detectives were investigating for kidnapping and possible murder — killed himself and murdered his two young sons in Washington in February.

Bremner has twice asked West Valley to release the records and has twice been rejected. Third District Judge Judith Atherton released redacted versions of search warrants and other reports two weeks ago.

Read more: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=21806092

J4A, Chuck Cox has said in the Media that "everyone that dropped the ball in Susan's, Charlie & Braden's case is going to be exposed." This means, ALL, even LE is going to be named in more Civil Suits. LE, imo, is responsible for a big part of the screw ups because they with held vital information from the 2nd LE agency involved. Ridiculous & outrageous, 2 LE agencies NOT working together put Charlie & Braden at risk.

imo, this type of irresponsible behavior has led to deadly consequences for a family that had already lost a daughter, they ALL need to be exposed, they are simply trying to protect themselves from the Civil Suits that are going to follow & their ineptitude exposed. It's no suprise these records haven't been turned over to Bremner, still praying for JUSTICE for Braden/Charlie/Susan. imo, everybody but the Coxes let them down & continue to.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:16 am

Parents of Susan Powell push for police records

By Associated Press Published: Aug 22, 2012 at 7:21 AM PDT

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (AP) - The West Valley City council is reviewing records of the investigation into the 2009 disappearance of West Valley City mom Susan Cox Powell to decide whether to release them to her parents' lawyer.

Attorney Anne Bremner told the council on Tuesday night that police records of Powell's disappearance and the investigation of her husband, Josh Powell, should be made available to mother's parents because they are victims in the case.

The city's assistant chief prosecutor told the council on Tuesday that the case is still active and releasing the records would compromise the police investigation.

The West Valley City police department released a similar statement Tuesday evening.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Parents-of-Susan-Powell-push-for-police-records-167030075.html
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Freckles on Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:25 am

Sto-
Want to get rid of sexual predators? Because of the nautre of the "affliction" it is usually not curable or unlearned . See: _Clockwork Orange_. I am not in the mood to pay for some jerk to be rec free life time health, food, laundry, TV, etc. Got to get them off the streets without warehousing them. Only one thing is left: Death penalty. Sends a message big and wide and keeps our streets cleaned up.
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Stolat on Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:47 am

Freckles wrote:Sto-
Want to get rid of sexual predators? Because of the nautre of the "affliction" it is usually not curable or unlearned . See: _Clockwork Orange_. I am not in the mood to pay for some jerk to be rec free life time health, food, laundry, TV, etc. Got to get them off the streets without warehousing them. Only one thing is left: Death penalty. Sends a message big and wide and keeps our streets cleaned up.

Well, yeah... but since a lot of people in this country refuse to support that penalty--- I'll be ok with life off the streets. Even if I have to help pay to keep them off. I can more easily see the penalties becoming stiffer than I can envision people accepting death penalty for sex crimes. Not as long as the robes are being worn by men - like Culpepper.
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Stolat on Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:49 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Parents of Susan Powell push for police records

By Associated Press Published: Aug 22, 2012 at 7:21 AM PDT

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (AP) - The West Valley City council is reviewing records of the investigation into the 2009 disappearance of West Valley City mom Susan Cox Powell to decide whether to release them to her parents' lawyer.

Attorney Anne Bremner told the council on Tuesday night that police records of Powell's disappearance and the investigation of her husband, Josh Powell, should be made available to mother's parents because they are victims in the case.

The city's assistant chief prosecutor told the council on Tuesday that the case is still active and releasing the records would compromise the police investigation.

The West Valley City police department released a similar statement Tuesday evening.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Parents-of-Susan-Powell-push-for-police-records-167030075.html

BBM -- yeah right. Active -- as in "we're going to arrest Josh this week" ???? We've seen THEIR definition of "Active". Not.

Shameful, and I hope they lose their positions before they continue to do more disservice to the public.
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:36 pm

Stolat, another crock in this case is LE claiming "an on going investigation" as to the reason they haven't released the documents, but, imo, that's a flat out lie. Bremner/Coxes know this, imo, they most likely havfe all the evidence they are going to get in this case UNLESS Susan was found, imo, she is buried making her remains almost impossible to find imo..

Stephen knows where Susan is buried & probably even helped Josh bury her, either by physically helping or keeping the boy's occupied while Josh buried her. Stephen has said through his attorney that he "isn't going to discuss the case.

Josh's siblings are fighting the Insurance Company & the Coxes/Bremner for the 1.5 million dollars insurance policy Josh left. Too, when Susan is declared dead the Coxes will get those monies but they do not want the Powell family to profit from the murder of Braden/Charlie. The arument put forth is the questioning of Josh's stability & can a murderer profit from insurance by leaving proceeds to his siblings & pervert dad!

For that reason, Stephen isn't going to share ANY information, he is NEVER going to admit where Susan is or that Josh is a murderer.. There is nothing LE can offer Stephen at this point, imo, to make him talk or deal.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:36 pm

double post, again, sorry! Cool Cool Cool

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Stolat on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:43 pm

art tart wrote: Stolat, another crock in this case is LE claiming "an on going investigation" as to the reason they haven't released the documents, but, imo, that's a flat out lie. Bremner/Coxes know this, imo, they most likely havfe all the evidence they are going to get in this case UNLESS Susan was found, imo, she is buried making her remains almost impossible to find imo..

Stephen knows where Susan is buried & probably even helped Josh bury her, either by physically helping or keeping the boy's occupied while Josh buried her. Stephen has said through his attorney that he "isn't going to discuss the case.

Josh's siblings are fighting the Insurance Company & the Coxes/Bremner for the 1.5 million dollars insurance policy Josh left. Too, when Susan is declared dead the Coxes will get those monies but they do not want the Powell family to profit from the murder of Braden/Charlie. The arument put forth is the questioning of Josh's stability & can a murderer profit from insurance by leaving proceeds to his siblings & pervert dad!

For that reason, Stephen isn't going to share ANY information, he is NEVER going to admit where Susan is or that Josh is a murderer.. There is nothing LE can offer Stephen at this point, imo, to make him talk or deal.

Man....another argument for me to use to tell my daughter to WAIT until she's grown adult to marry! ha! Cause "Crazy" often takes some time to manifest in people and very young adults don't always show it, and more importantly, very young adults can't always recognize the symptoms in others.

The more I learn about Stephen Powell and the details of his travels to Utah the days before and during Susan's disappearance and his constant contact with Josh that whole time -- only makes me believe he was more involved in *some* way than I ever considered before.

~Based on the fact that Susan had shunned Steve for over a year, and his documented fantasies seemed more escalated and desperate than ever -- I could easily see him prodding Josh and poking the fire into action. One of the psychologists made a very good profile of Stephen with regards to his fixation on Susan: Stephen did NOT need Susan present to perpetuate his fantasies -- so needing her *ALIVE* was an unnecessary part of his fantasy as well. And in fact, as long as she was alive but no longer living with him, Steve had no control over where she was and who she was with - but Steve only benefitted from her being DEAD because he could then control her location and company. And if he couldn't have Susan, then he didn't want Josh to either because in some way, he likely blamed Josh for allowing Susan to convince him to move away from Steve. And it drove Steve to insanity to think Josh had her to himself and he could no longer carry out his sick perversions such as stealing her laundry.

~So with all that in mind, and given the facts of the diaries, the cell phone records, the sick-day that Steve took from work the day of her disappearance, and the fact that Steve was in Utah at that time for the first time in over a year.... all leads me to this primary conclusion: Steve somehow manipulated Josh, perhaps by projecting thoughts of jealousies and mistrust onto Josh or convincing him Susan would abandon Josh with no access to their boys, and Josh killed her in a rage -like he did to hiw own sons- and Steve somehow reassured Josh he'd take care of the aftermath and help make sure he would not be caught. Based on the fact that Steve would like nothing more than to finally have full control over Susan's body and did not need her to be a "live" Susan in order to gratify his fantasies -- then he would likely jump at the chance to perhaps later take her body and move it elsewhere for his own gratification -- and also out of jurisdiction of where Utah authorities were searching.

I think Susan rests somewhere of Steve's doing and in Steve's proximity - even if he may not have been the one to have killed her.

**And this uber-creepy statement he made (quoted on Nancy Grace last night) only seems to confirm his warped view that he somehow thought Susan deserved death:

"I thought Susan was dead. I now believe she is alive. I am 99 percent certain Susan absconded.
And she was alive when she (INAUDIBLE). She could have been killed by now, given her risk-taking behavior. But I doubt that. And I seriously doubt she is in this country."

I think he considered her actions of moving away from him a very risky and gutsy thing to do -- to challenge him and reject him like that. As if to say *HE* could have killed her by now for doing that to him, but did not -- rather he got someone else to do it. In that very one statement -- he conveys his opinion that Susan acted in a way that made her deserving of DEATH. Either by his hands or by the hands of someone he could manipulate to carry out the wishes of a deranged dejected sick pervert. And in his delusion, I think he considers this relm of the living to be his homeland - his "country". She is not in this country -- she is not with the living in this relm.
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:08 pm

Stolat shared: (snipped)

all leads me to this primary conclusion: Steve somehow manipulated Josh, perhaps by projecting thoughts of jealousies and mistrust onto Josh or convincing him Susan would abandon Josh with no access to their boys, and Josh killed her in a rage -like he did to hiw own sons- and Steve somehow reassured Josh he'd take care of the aftermath and help make sure he would not be caught. Based on the fact that Steve would like nothing more than to finally have full control over Susan's body and did not need her to be a "live" Susan in order to gratify his fantasies -- then he would likely jump at the chance to perhaps later take her body and move it elsewhere for his own gratification -- and also out of jurisdiction of where Utah authorities were searching.

Stolat: Excellent comment, many good points. ITA that there is no doubt Stephen prodded Josh, encouraged him to get rid of Susan, reminded him daily she was going to leave him, take the boy's, the Powell family would only get minimal visitation, that the boy's would be raised MORMAN, just like Susan, just as the Coxes' wanted, something Josh vehemently detested even though once a Morman himself.

Stephen in no way has clean hands in Susan's death imo, though there is no evidence he committed the murder, only that Josh did, there isn't enough evidence to even charge him as being an "accessory after the fact" though imo, he told Josh exactly what to do next & participated. Josh certainly acted suspicious to Susan prompting her to leave the letter claiming she feared "Josh was going to murder her, he had acted suspicously towards her."

I am so angry that LE, imo, screwed this case up royally from the beginning, they are fighting the release of documents to Bremner because it is going to show their ineptitude & mis-steps, they are going to be held accountable for the mishandling of the case that ultimately led to the murder of Charlie/Braden.

I am becoming so disillusioned in some of these cases, there is never going to be JUSTICE for Caylee, Haleigh, & Susan/Charlie/Braden. A measure of JUSTICE may be gotten for the Coxes in trying to change the laws if they are successful & holding those accountable in the failure to protect Charlie/Braden in which CPS/Court's are hell bent on giving children back to biological parent's even though it is not in the best interest of the children.

Stephen being released from prison makes me want to puke. No one can guarantee the public he won't abuse again, video/photograph unspecting children, or worse.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:22 pm

Council has 5 BUSINESS Days to release decision in the request of documents from Anne Bremner:

The council has five business days to issue a decision on the request for the records from Washington attorney Anne Bremner.

"We’re as anxious as anyone to get to the bottom of this," Rushton said before joining the council in the private session. ***

Bremner argued that Powell’s parents are entitled to police records detailing the investigation into her 2009 disappearance because they are also victims. She said the piecemeal release of information in the case has been like a "knife to the heart" to her clients.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54739625-78/powell-bremner-records-police.html.csp

***A blantant lie imo, their ONLY interest is keeping this from the public, to prevent an inevitable Civil Law Suit that is going to follow holding them accountable/responsibile & expose their conduct to the public even though Bremner has said she wouldn't make it public. imo, someone else needs to investigate the conduct & the request of the Coxes/Bremner, someone objective, another agency, there is clearly a CONFLICT of interest.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:40 pm

Just a reminder about Ann Rule telling the story of Susan, Charlie, Braden & their murders. She has a nice page on Susan Powell I hadn't seen before.

from the article:

Ann Rule had been trying to avoid cases where children are victims as she finds it too emotionally draining to immerse herself in their stories. But she had been already working on Susan's story before the shocking murder of Charlie and Braden. Susan's family expects her to finish the book and she is proceeding. (Ann was especially touched to learn that she was one of Susan Cox Powell's favorite authors.)

http://www.authorannrule.com/Coming_Soon_.html

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Post by nanshin on Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:38 pm

art tart wrote:Just a reminder about Ann Rule telling the story of Susan, Charlie, Braden & their murders. She has a nice page on Susan Powell I hadn't seen before.

from the article:

Ann Rule had been trying to avoid cases where children are victims as she finds it too emotionally draining to immerse herself in their stories. But she had been already working on Susan's story before the shocking murder of Charlie and Braden. Susan's family expects her to finish the book and she is proceeding. (Ann was especially touched to learn that she was one of Susan Cox Powell's favorite authors.)

http://www.authorannrule.com/Coming_Soon_.html

Thanks, Art. Ann Rule is also one of my favorite true crime writers. Before nancy grace, court tv , Ann Rule was writing about true crime stories. The Stranger Beside Me (Ted Bundy's story) was the 1st one I read ! She tells a compassionate story about the victims and their families. I am catching up with a lot of news. I have been visiting and travelling with family these past several weeks. But I did hear about the disgusting steven powell journals. Hopping over to check out anything about the Bashara case. I did get the news on drew peterson thanks to all the great posters and DVR ! Very Happy
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:43 pm

nanshin, so good to see you.

Ann Rule's daughter said:

Ann is determined to write a book that will not only honor the memory of the three victims but will call attention to the fact that we need stricter laws concerning visitations with abusive, estranged parents.

As I write this, Ann is home working on Susan's story. It will be available in November 2012. ~ Leslie Rule

I didn't realize it, but Jennifer Graves, Josh's sister is writing a book too. She has stood up for Susan, the Coxes, & the boy's for years, her insight into the murder of Susan by her brother Josh, and the background information she can share as to growing up w/Stephen as a father & pedophile is going to be interesting. Hopefully she can shed some light on how this affected all her siblings.

Jennifer Graves -- Susan's friend and Josh's sister -- is currently writing a book with a co-author. She says hers will be the story somewhat through her eyes. We asked her what she hoped to impart to people.

"I would hope that people come away with the power that they have to make choices and take accountability for what they do," she said. "And also that there's always hope in their situation, no matter where they are."

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=20832638




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Post by Stolat on Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:57 am

art tart wrote:nanshin, so good to see you.

Ann Rule's daughter said:

Ann is determined to write a book that will not only honor the memory of the three victims but will call attention to the fact that we need stricter laws concerning visitations with abusive, estranged parents.

As I write this, Ann is home working on Susan's story. It will be available in November 2012. ~ Leslie Rule

I didn't realize it, but Jennifer Graves, Josh's sister is writing a book too. She has stood up for Susan, the Coxes, & the boy's for years, her insight into the murder of Susan by her brother Josh, and the background information she can share as to growing up w/Stephen as a father & pedophile is going to be interesting. Hopefully she can shed some light on how this affected all her siblings.

Jennifer Graves -- Susan's friend and Josh's sister -- is currently writing a book with a co-author. She says hers will be the story somewhat through her eyes. We asked her what she hoped to impart to people.

"I would hope that people come away with the power that they have to make choices and take accountability for what they do," she said. "And also that there's always hope in their situation, no matter where they are."

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=20832638


Jennifer Graves is an odd one, and I have this really bad feeling that she's just cashing in -- I noticed she did stand up for the Cox's earlier on, but only when it gave her an opportunity to redirect the fixation of conversation on herself and her own upbringing. She does it in a clever way, but undoubtedly, if you read between the lines -- she does it. The need for attention in that family seems life-draining. One thing that made her ulterier motives clear was when she started standing up for her brother and father in the last hours and aftermath of the boys' murders. She vocally defended her brother Josh -- which really shocked me. So I'm very leery about the agenda of anything she has to say. I do believe she was abused by her father -- as likely was the whole family. I just fear that a lot of misinformation may come out in a twisted fashion that is only designed to benefit only her -- as is the nature of her entire family it seems.
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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:55 pm

DECISION DUE TODAY ON THE DOCUMENT RELEASE!
The pressure is on West Valley City leaders today as they must deliver a decision on whether to release police documents related to the Susan Powell case.

Anne Bremner, attorney for Susan Powell's parents Chuck and Judy Cox, says if this third and final appeal is denied by the City Council then a civil lawsuit will be filed against the city.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=21902071

imo, IF the Council DECLINES to release these needed documents to Bremner/Cox, I hope Bremner can go over their head & appeal to someone else. imo, this is a clear conflict of interest for a Gov. agency to decide if documents should be released that are surely going to expose the failures in the investigation that led to 2 avoidable deaths, that of Charlie/Braden.



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Post by Justice4all on Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:19 pm

Art, the council has once again declined to release the records because they don't want to "hamper an ongoing investigation." The investigation wasn't able to put Josh Powell behind bars before he could murder his sons, so what could possibly be hampered now? I think this denial is more about CYA than anything else.

West Valley City denies Susan Powell’s family access to police records

Missing woman » The city council says it does not want to harm an ongoing investigation.

By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
August 28, 2012

West Valley City • The case of Josh and Susan Cox Powell appears headed to court, but not the way so many people once expected.

The West Valley City Council on Tuesday denied an appeal from Susan Powell’s family to see police investigative records in her missing person’s case. After the council held a brief private meeting, Mayor Pro Tem Corey Rushton announced the unanimous decision to uphold earlier denials issued by city staff.

Rushton said the council spent the past week "very slowly and very deliberately" looking through "a lot" of documents related to the investigation into Susan Powell’s 2009 disappearance. He said it was "very apparent" under Utah’s records law that the city had good reason to withhold them.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54780060-78/powell-records-case-police.html.csp
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Utah city says Susan Powell’s parents won’t get police records

August 28, 2012 at 6:36 PM
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Chuck and Judy Cox had hoped to see the investigative files into the disappearance of their daughter Susan Cox Powell. (AP Photo/The Salt Lake Tribune, Steve Grffin)

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah — The West Valley City Council has decided not to release police records that detail the investigation into Susan Powell’s disappearance and the ensuing probe of her husband.

The order issued Tuesday evening says the records are properly classified as protected.

Seattle Attorney Anne Bremner, who represents Powell’s parents, sought the records, but has been rebuffed by police who claim releasing them would compromise their ongoing investigation.

Bremner appealed her case to the City Council last week. She contends that under Utah law, Powell’s parents should have access to the case files.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2012/08/utah-city-says-susan-powells-parents-wont-get-police-records/
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:17 pm

Justice4all wrote:Art, the council has once again declined to release the records because they don't want to "hamper an ongoing investigation." The investigation wasn't able to put Josh Powell behind bars before he could murder his sons, so what could possibly be hampered now? I think this denial is more about CYA than anything else.

West Valley City denies Susan Powell’s family access to police records

Missing woman » The city council says it does not want to harm an ongoing investigation.

By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
August 28, 2012

West Valley City • The case of Josh and Susan Cox Powell appears headed to court, but not the way so many people once expected.

The West Valley City Council on Tuesday denied an appeal from Susan Powell’s family to see police investigative records in her missing person’s case. After the council held a brief private meeting, Mayor Pro Tem Corey Rushton announced the unanimous decision to uphold earlier denials issued by city staff.

Rushton said the council spent the past week "very slowly and very deliberately" looking through "a lot" of documents related to the investigation into Susan Powell’s 2009 disappearance. He said it was "very apparent" under Utah’s records law that the city had good reason to withhold them.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54780060-78/powell-records-case-police.html.csp

J4A, I am terribly disappointed but not suprised at this news. Bremner/Coxes have made no secret they need this information for the insurance case in which they are contesting the payout to Josh's siblings, to pursue a Civil Case against ALL, not just the social worker's agency, but LE also in the botched investigation. I figured they wouldn't hand the records over but I had hoped.

I wonder what can be done now? THe Council making a decision seemed a conflict of interest imo, of course they are going to side with LE, they too don't want any more law suits.

On going Investigation? LOL, imo, it's over, this case is going nowhere. Stephen through his attorney has said he "isn't going to talk/discuss/answer any questions on the murder of Charlie/Braden & Susan's disappearance." He can't be made to talk & there is no incentive for him to talk, he too has a vested interest in the 1.5 million dollar insurance policies although Steven is going to receive a small percentage, I think around 8-10 %. the Coxes are contesting but who knows? Only in America can a sociopathic parent murder & dispose of his wife, then murder the children & leave his siblings insurance policies totalling 1.5 million. 1/2 million dollars for the murder of Charlie/Braden. Outrageous imo, criminal. My heart continues to break for the Coxes, they are good people, they continue to suffer & unfortuately, I don't think the end if in sight.

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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Stolat on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:33 am

Justice4all wrote:Art, the council has once again declined to release the records because they don't want to "hamper an ongoing investigation." The investigation wasn't able to put Josh Powell behind bars before he could murder his sons, so what could possibly be hampered now? I think this denial is more about CYA than anything else.

West Valley City denies Susan Powell’s family access to police records

Missing woman » The city council says it does not want to harm an ongoing investigation.

By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
August 28, 2012

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Rushton said the council spent the past week "very slowly and very deliberately" looking through "a lot" of documents related to the investigation into Susan Powell’s 2009 disappearance. He said it was "very apparent" under Utah’s records law that the city had good reason to withhold them.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54780060-78/powell-records-case-police.html.csp

Yeah-- it's called INCOMPETENCE -- duh, that's the only thing that is very apparent and that's why it's apparent they don't want anyone else to see proof of it. This is a sham and someone needs to be exposed. I hope for the family there is some kind of recourse. I am in the camp who says that those two boys would still be alive today in part had they not dragged their feet and failed to communicate and collaborate with the other jurisdiction to procure the necessary info in the custody hearing that could have saved those boys lives. I rest blame squarely on them first.
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Re: Susan Powell -- Missing 12/7/09

Post by Guest on Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:29 pm

Anne Bremner letting the Council/LE know that the Coxes nor she, or the general public following this case believe the bullchit EXCUSE the Council gave.

Bremner said:

The stated reason for their unanimous decision was that releasing the records would jeopardize an ongoing investigation. We trust they understand that if their reluctance was instead based on a desire not to release embarrassing information, that eventually will come to light. There is understandable confusion as to why the case is considered active.

Judging by what is known, the department needs to account for why it never arrested Josh Powell in connection with his wife's disappearance. Pierce County, Wash., prosecutor Mark Lindquist has said he knew of enough evidence that he would have charged Powell if it had been up to his office. However, the Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office never once sat down with West Valley police to formally screen the case for charges, according to news reports.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765600285/West-Valley-City-should-give-us-the-records-for-the-Powell-case-2-someday.html

this case, imo, is as ugly as it gets, 2 precious children murdered despite grandparent's that fought for their safety
& even getting them a Guardian ad litem to represent Charlie & Braden. LE is not going to take any responsibility for the collassal F-Up of this case, I hope Bremner not only names the agencies but sues those personally for their ineptitude. I pray Bremner doesn't give up, surely someone can help move this forward, 3 innocent people are dead!

My question: why can't Bremner just go over the heads of those covering up, why can't she just go to the Attorney Gerneral's office?

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