Natalee Holloway -- Missing 5/30/05

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Post by Justice4all on Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:13 pm

Van Der Sloot Insisted Natalee Holloway's Mom Sign Contract to Pay Him for Info
Suspect Took $25K and Then Lied About Location of the Body

By RUSSELL GOLDMAN, JOHN QUINONES and SARAH NETTER
June 10, 2010



Joran van der Sloot's plan to extort money from the parents of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway was so brazen that he demanded her mother sign a contract pledging tens of thousands of dollars for information about where her daughter's remains could be found, according to an FBI affidavit unsealed today.

But in a heartless act of greed and deception, the Dutch playboy accepted $25,000 from Holloway's mother and then lied to her about where her daughter was buried, the affidavit states.

Van der Sloot , 22, is currently jailed in Peru for the murder of a young woman, Stephany Flores Ramirez, who he met in a Lima casino.

On the day he was arrested for murder, U.S. prosecutors in Birmingham, Ala., issued an arrest warrant for van der Sloot charging him with extortion.

The federal affidavit released today spells out for the first time how the alleged extortion scam unfolded.

U.S. prosecutors say van der Sloot contacted a person known to Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, in March, and negotiated a price for showing him the location of the remains of the Alabama high school student who vanished during a school trip to Aruba in 2005.

Van der Sloot initially demanded $250,000, but later agreed to show the family's proxy the location of the body in Aruba for $25,000 up front and a promise of more to come.

The affidavit does not name the proxy, referred to by the government as a "cooperating witness."

During the negotiations with Twitty's go-between, "van der Sloot insisted that a written contract between him and Mrs. Twitty be prepared by the cooperating witness," according to the affidavit.

The contract was signed by Twitty, who faxed it back to the cooperating witness in New York.

Offices for lawyer John Kelly, who represented Twitty in her 2006 wrongful death civil suit against van der Sloot, are located in New York.

"Van der Sloot indicated to the cooperating witness that unless Mrs. Twitty paid the money demanded he would not tell where the remains of her daughter were hidden, nor provide any information regarding the circumstances of her death," the affidavit states.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Media/van-der-sloot-cash-holloways-mom-lied-remains/story?id=10874347&page=1
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Re: Natalee Holloway -- Missing 5/30/05

Post by Julie on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:29 am

Police: Joran van der Sloot says he knows location of Holloway's body

June 11, 2010
Posted: 08:08 AM ET

Lima, Peru (CNN) - Joran van der Sloot told investigators during an interrogation that he knows the location of Natalee Holloway's body, but he would neither identify the location nor say what happened to her the night of her disappearance, a Peruvian police official told CNN.

"In the interrogation done to the Dutch citizen, he says he knew the location of the corpse of the American citizen, but that he was going to explain everything to Aruban police," said Miguel Canlla, head of the homicide division of the Peruvian national police investigative unit, on Thursday.

Van der Sloot, a 22-year-old Dutch citizen, is suspected of killing a 21-year-old woman in Lima last month. Stephany Flores Ramirez was found beaten to death in a hotel room registered in van der Sloot's name. Van der Sloot was captured in Chile and returned last week to Peru, where authorities say he confessed to killing Flores.

He was twice arrested in connection with the 2005 disappearance of Holloway, but was released for lack of evidence. Holloway was on a class trip to Aruba when she went missing.

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Post by Estee on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:35 am

All right...so hop on a plane and get thee over to Lima...Make sure you have all your documentation and everything necessary to nail his admitted location of Natalee's body...Then call Aruba so they can check it out...If it turns out to be another of his lies then get him for lying to police and hampering an investigation...
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Re: Natalee Holloway -- Missing 5/30/05

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:28 pm

Sloot say's he will point the way to Natalee's rcorpse..

By DAN MANGAN
Last Updated: 9:00 AM, June 11, 2010
Posted: 3:52 AM, June 11, 2010

Joran van der Sloot has told police he knows where the remains of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway can be found.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Gen. Cesar Guardia said Van der Sloot "let slip that he knew the place where this person was buried" but "would only testify before Aruba authorities."

The bombshell development came as authorities prepared to lodge murder charges against van der Sloot for the savage slaying of Stephany Flores, 21, in Lima, Peru on May 30 -- five years to the day after Holloway vanished on the Caribbean island.


Meanwhile, a newly released FBI affidavit showed how van der Sloot, 22, shook down Holloway's mom last month for $250,000 with a similar promise to tell how he killed her 18-year-old daughter and where her remains could be found -- a promise that turned out to be a lie.

Van der Sloot has been the prime suspect in the Holloway case for years and has given multiple, conflicting accounts of what happened the night met her. But he has never been charged in the case.

Desperate for money in late March, he reached out via a New York lawyer to Natalee's mom, Beth Twitty, and offered to tell the supposedly true version.

In the affidavit, unsealed in Alabama federal court yesterday, FBI Special Agent William Bryan lays out how van der Sloot exploited Twitty's grief by coldly turning her tragedy into a business transaction.

Van der Sloot on March 29 e-mailed a "cooperating witness," offering to guide him to Natalee's body, the affidavit said.

The "cooperating witness" was Twitty's lawyer, John Kelly, according to Bo Dietl, a private eye hired by the Holloway family.

The e-mail threatened that "unless Mrs. Twitty paid the money demanded, he [van der Sloot] would not disclose where the remains of her daughter were hidden," the affidavit said.

In later e-mails, he said he would take the "cooperating witness" to her body for a $25,000 down payment.

He was supposed to get the rest of the quarter-million dollars after the body was recovered and proven to be Holloway's.

Van der Sloot "insisted that a written contract between him and Ms. Twitty" be prepared by Kelly laying out the deal's terms, according to the feds. Kelly drew up the contract and faxed it to Twitty in Birmingham, Ala., where she signed it and faxed it back.

On April 15, Twitty transferred $100 from her bank account to van der Sloot's bank in the Netherlands to confirm that it "was, in fact, a good account," the affidavit said.

She then wired another $10,000 to Kelly so he could bring it to Aruba for a May 10 face-to-face meeting with van der Sloot in a hotel room. Up to a dozen FBI agents were there, secretly recording the meeting.

When van der Sloot showed up, both men signed two copies of the contract with Twitty "and took pictures of each other signing the agreement" before Kelly handed over the $10,000 in cash.

Kelly then phoned Twitty, who wired $15,000 from her Birmingham bank to van der Sloot's Netherlands account, the FBI said.

Kelly and van der Sloot then got into the lawyer's rental car and drove to a house where van der Sloot said Natalee's body had been buried, the affidavit said.

Van der Sloot told Kelly that Holloway had died on May 30, 2005, when "he had thrown her to the ground after she had attempted to stop him from leaving her," the affidavit said. "Van der Sloot claimed that when she fell, she hit her head on a rock and died as a result of the impact."

He claimed that after killing her, he contacted his father, a prominent judge who died this past February, the affidavit said. The judge supposedly went to the death scene and hid Natalee's body. A few days later, van der Sloot told Kelly "his father buried Natalee's body" in "the gravel under the foundation" of the house he showed Kelly, the affidavit said.

The FBI affidavit said gaping holes in van der Sloot's story were quickly discovered by Aruban authorities after he parted ways with Kelly. Building records show there was no foundation on the land at the time Holloway disappeared.

And in a May 17 e-mail to Kelly from van der Sloot -- then in Peru -- "van der Sloot admitted to the cooperating witness that he had lied about the location of Holloway's body," the affidavit said.

The FBI agents had more than enough evidence to charge van der Sloot with extortion after he received the money, and Aruban authorities could have detained him for his admissions of killing Holloway, Dietl told The Post.

"The FBI dropped the f---ing ball," Dietl said. "They should have insisted on him being held."

Two weeks later, he admittedly killed Flores.

Van der Sloot -- whose chest is tattooed with a Thai phrase meaning "No worries" -- is expected to be formally charged today with Flores' murder.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/ll_spill_my_B5YEFF3tqDNYNoL4NlfHhK#ixzz0qZxE6TIB
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Unbelievable! I cant believe that he was not help after meeting with the undercover FBI... unbelievable,....

He got the money, he got his freedom and he took another life..

I imagine that Natalee's family will be a great support fr the Flores familiy... Their tragedies will likely bring them together for support..

The thought he had 15k just days before.. I wonder if he blew it all gambling? I suspect money had something to do with the death of Stephany..

I also note how Joran's excuses of killing women are always that he is victim.. How dare he say he was trying to get away from NAtalee and he pushed her to the ground where she hit her head and died.. Now he says Stephany hit him first...

Maybe after KC is convicted they can send her over there.. these 2 deserve each other..

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Post by LottieM on Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:12 pm

They had better not let Joran talk to his daddy's Aruban friends!

I still think Joran has no idea what daddy and his friends did with Natalee's body...but you just let him get up with his daddy's friends on the pretense of telling them where her body is....and what I fear will happen is....they will pretend Joran told them, when actually they already know, but can't admit it.
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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:21 pm

Just wondering.... Are you thinking that daddy wud have held the burial place from Joran, and instead incorporated others to help?...

So now there wud be several ppl who wud know about the crime and where she is hidden/buried yet held back the information from Joran?

Im trying to figure out why Paulo wud have made it worse, by blabbing to others, and getting their help, yet keeping Joran (the instigator of the entire crime) in the dark?

There has always been a big reward, and I wud imagine that if someone helped discard the remains they wudnt even get jail time, (via a sweetheart deal made for improperly dealing with a corpse, especially where Paulo is now dead.... why wudnt they have already come forward?

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Post by Justice4all on Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:25 pm

I don't know who daddy might have told or had help him, but Joran does have a big mouth and I wouldn't be surprised if he kept the location of the remains secret from Joran.
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Post by Julie on Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:26 pm

I don't think his dad would have told him. I think he would want him to appear
not knowing/"innocent".

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Post by LottieM on Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:21 pm

I think Joran was left in the dark because he is a loose cannon.
I think Paulus got help from his cop buddies - or just one cop buddy who could control things within the cop regiment- and that's why no one can claim the reward for knowing where Natalee is.

awaiting justice wrote:Just wondering.... Are you thinking that daddy wud have held the burial place from Joran, and instead incorporated others to help?...

So now there wud be several ppl who wud know about the crime and where she is hidden/buried yet held back the information from Joran?

Im trying to figure out why Paulo wud have made it worse, by blabbing to others, and getting their help, yet keeping Joran (the instigator of the entire crime) in the dark?

There has always been a big reward, and I wud imagine that if someone helped discard the remains they wudnt even get jail time, (via a sweetheart deal made for improperly dealing with a corpse, especially where Paulo is now dead.... why wudnt they have already come forward?
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Post by LottieM on Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:31 pm

I've never thought Natalee was in the ocean. I don't think they would have put her anywhere they couldn't keep an eye on her remains.

I kept up with this case pretty good back in the day. I know there was talk that Natalee may have been incinerated...but I think the number of people who knew where she was put is limited, so I don't think she was incinerated.

I've always been partial to a few possible locations to where her remains are....

1) Buried inside the one fisherman hut that was NOT broken into and so, never checked.

2) Down some old abandoned well at the Esso Colony..where only some people have access to enter.

3) Put as cargo on that ship that left the docks the morning of the 31st....The Amazing Grace...that was shortly thereafter retired from service and docked in a boat graveyard on a nearby island.
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Post by Piper on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:50 am

Joran van der Sloot gave a fourth version of the death of Natalee Holloway
The citizen Dutchman admitted that the American girl fell from a balcony and with a friend hid the body in a swamp

June 13 2010 - 10:02 pm

Translated from spanish:

The disappearance of Natalee Holloway was described as never before by the principal involved in this case, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, During a television interview granted in December last year in Aruba. On that occasion, the 23 year old confessed that participated in the death of the U.S. occurred in May 2005.

According to his account, he was with Natalee in the casino and then play cards went towards the hotel with the girl, but in the way of the Netherlands he met a friend who invited them to his apartment. They were installed on the balcony, where they caught and drugged. "They stopped to dance, then I stopped to grab her and that she fell off the balcony." The three were on the second floor of a building.

The statement Van der Sloot occurred months after they voluntarily submit to a lie detector (March 2009) and prove that their version of the desaparición the Natalee was false. But in August 2009, a popular presenter RTL television station, Visited in Aruba and convinced him to give an interview. That was the first time the Dutchman admitted his involvement in the crime.

ADMIT TO CRY
"It's very serious what has happened and I am very sorry that all this time not counted, but I've always been afraid of the consequences," said Van der Sloot before cameras before breaking into tears.

"I really did not want all this happen (...) was not intentional. I only went because she was dancing and wanted to help, but I feel it's my fault because she fell I caught her at the time, "he added.

The images transmitted by the TV program "Punto Final" (Frecuencia Latina) with Spanish translation, is a fourth version of what really happened on May 30, 2005.

Previously you said you left the girl on the beach and saw no more, on another occasion said that led her to his hotel and later admitted with a hidden camera who killed Natalee and her body sank into the sea.

Natalee Holloway died instantly as a result of the fall and he and his friend took the body to a swamp. "We crossed the dam, cross the cattails and one of the deepest points we left," said the young man who not only lied previously about the case, but also denied categorically killing the young Peruvian Stephany Flores, Then confess their brutal crime.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494604/joran-van-der-sloot-dio-cuarta-version-sobre-muerte-natalee-holloway
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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:05 pm

lies lies lies and more lies.....

No human being cud have talked about Natalee is such a disrespecting way and describing frothing and, and dumping in her water without knowing she was dead, and calling her names and continually telling the undercover PI that he wasnt lying... if an accident happened...

He is such a sickening waste of skin, I believe he knows exactly where he and his father put her... I suspect it was some kind of container where she was weighted and is in the bottom of the ocean or burned .....

I dont believe for one second he doesnt know where she is, and although I believe he has lied about how she dies, I do think it is possible that he will tell where she is with enough pressure...

I hope this will offer zero leveridge ... as soon as she is found, I hope he is shot solowly from the toes up....

He is a monster...and doesnt have a place on this earth

He should rot in hell

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Post by LottieM on Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:25 pm

Short blip on the news said the Kalpoes are turning state's evidence....there was no further discussion. Wonder if it's true?
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Post by Julie on Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:33 am

Hmm, sounds interesting.

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Post by Estee on Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:14 am

Wouldn't it be ironic if they got the reward $$$
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Post by Piper on Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:15 am

Wow, that's interesting.........I hope they will speak the truth this time. Yes, that would be ironic Estee. Can that really happen?
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Re: Natalee Holloway -- Missing 5/30/05

Post by Justice4all on Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:38 am

This is an old interview recently published to Youtube.