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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:14 pm

No problem, Ann! I was excited to hear that Dateline will be airing a 2 hour show for this trial so soon. And, very anxious to see the jury come back. They asked for a device to play the 911 call yesterday and for the bathtub to be brought into the deliberation room. It can go either way.......
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:26 pm

Thanks for the update, Piper. I hope you post the verdict here as soon as you know.
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:50 pm

I've tried to stay on the fence through this, but admit I'm leaning. I wish it was aired live on TV, but the blog is better than just reading the news articles. It really helps, but you still don't see what the jurors do.
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:27 pm

Piper, it appears a verdict has been reached. The live blog said Karin said verdict. Whoever Karin is. Defense attorneys are going into court room.
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:28 pm

Travis said the courtroom is filling up. Lots of folks from prosecutors office. Sarah's mom is there.
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:30 pm

Verdict has been reached per a comment on the Live blog. Ryan not there yet.
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:32 pm

Watch live re Verdict:

http://www.wlwt.com/video/26870980/detail.html
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:33 pm

Oh my, that was quick...........I'm nervous.
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:36 pm

Going back to the TV in our breakroom........
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:49 pm

Ryan Widmer has been found guilty of murdering his wife, Sarah.......
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:50 pm

Guilty of murder.

I could not watch the live stream. It kept cutting out. I watched the Live blog. Travis said when verdict was announced, Ryan bent forward at the waist, crying.

He went to the podium to speak. Said he did not do this. Said he was charged with murder 12 hours after Sarah died.

Travis posted: Judge said 15 years to life. Credit for time served. Must reimburse prosecution.

15 years to life does not make sense to me. Did he get 15 years or life?
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:51 pm

I'm stunned, I really didn't think the state had proved their case.

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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:51 pm

At least 15 years, but no more than life.
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:53 pm

Ryan's dad just collapsed outside the court....
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:55 pm

Guess who the new judge is on the court of appeals? Rachel Hutzel, the prosecutor of this case. She just took her new post a few weeks ago.



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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:56 pm

I guess they saw little doubt, fresh eyes and ears.
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:58 pm

Widmer found guilty of murder

Updated 4:45 PM Tuesday, February 15, 2011

LEBANON — Ryan Widmer is guilty of murder, a jury determined Tuesday after spending 12 hours deliberating over two days.

Widmer, 30, killed his wife Sarah Widmer in their Hamilton Twp. home on Aug. 11, 2008, according to the state. He has been tried twice previously, but mistrials were declared in both.

Widmer will spend 15 years to life in prison. He has already served about five months behind bars and will get credit for time served.

The case seemed simple on the surface — Sarah Widmer drowned and her husband, Ryan, was the only person present in their home at the time. Medical responders said the drowning scene was dry and the coroner said bruising and injuries on her body were the result of a homicide.

Underneath the surface, the case was complex. The defense maintained Sarah died from a medical problem.

The trial involved testimony from more than 40 people. Medical experts, first responders, police, friends and family testified about what they thought happen to Sarah Widmer.

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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:00 pm

Ryan Widmer Found Guilty Of Murder

WLWT - Cincinnati, OH

POSTED: 3:51 pm EST February 14, 2011
UPDATED: 4:46 pm EST February 15, 2011

LEBANON -- A jury has found Ryan Widmer guilty of murder.

Sarah Widmer drowned in a bathtub in the couple's home in 2008. Ryan Widmer was found guilty of murder in his first trial, but that verdict was overturned on allegations of juror misconduct.

The second trial ended in a hung jury.


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Piper, maybe when you get home, you will post videos, etc.

I remember how grateful I was to you for all of the articles and videos you posted when I attended Emma Thompson's trial.
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Post by Sherry on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:06 pm

Sad I can't believe it~
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Post by pi-girl on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:07 pm

Wow. I was thinking they might choose manslaughter, but not murder.

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Post by Sherry on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:23 pm

Piper wrote:Guess who the new judge is on the court of appeals? Rachel Hutzel, the prosecutor of this case. She just took her new post a few weeks ago.




I feel like saying a few expletives. Think I will...excuse me for a minute...
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Post by mel on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:30 pm

I guess I am in shock... I thought for sure that they would find him guilty of Manslaughter.. I just am so sad for this young man..

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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:41 pm

I would think Rachel Hutzel would have to recuse herself. Clearly a conflict of interest.


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Post by Sherry on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:47 pm

Ann - Tx wrote:I would think Rachel Hutzel would have to rescue herself. Clearly a conflict of interest.

Yes,{whew!} I am glad of that!
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:54 pm

Ryan Widmer found guilty of murder

3:48 PM, Feb. 15, 2011

Cincinnati.com - Cincinnati, OH

LEBANON - Ryan Widmer was found guilty of murder Tuesday in the 2008 drowning death of his 24-year-old wife, Sarah Widmer.

The conviction carries a mandatory sentence of 15 years to life.

After the verdict was read, Widmer collapsed on the table, holding his head and sobbing.

Sobs could also be heard throughout the courtroom after the verdict was read.

“We depleted our money,” Widmer said when given a chance to speak. “This keeps going on and on. Twelve hours after she died and I'm charged … This isn't right, isn't right.

“I did not do this. My life has been ruined. I loved Sarah. I would never hurt her, never. This has gone on for 2 1/2 years now.”


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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:12 pm

Ryan Widmer Found Guilty Of Murdering His Wife
'I Did Not Do This,' Widmer Tells Judge

POSTED: 3:51 pm EST February 14, 2011
UPDATED: 5:44 pm EST February 15, 2011

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LEBANON -- A jury has found Ryan Widmer guilty of murder.

Jurors deliberated for about 11 hours before finding Widmer guilty of drowning his wife, Sarah, in the bathtub of the couple's home in 2008. He was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison.

Ryan Widmer bent over the table and covered his eyes after the jury's verdict was read.

"I did not do this. I do not know why this has to go on. My life is ruined," Widmer told Judge Neal Bronson after the verdict was read. "This is not right."

Widmer was taken into custody immediately after the sentence. He was escorted out of the courtroom where he was met by reporters.


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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:23 pm


Ryan Widmer was found guilty Tuesday of murdering his wife, Sarah Widmer, in 2008 in their Hamilton Township home. Widmer will serve a mandatory term of 15 years to life in prison.
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:25 pm


Sarah's mom, Ruth Ann Steward

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Ryan cuffed, being escorted to the Warren County Jail
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The jury of six men and six women was the first of the three juries to include a black juror in predominantly white Warren County. The jury also included a naturalized citizen from Turkey.

The case piqued public interest from the start because it involved a pair of college graduates – newlyweds who had no documented history of domestic violence. They were not the usual type of people to be involved in a murder case.

While no one disputes she drowned, how she drowned has been a matter of controversy.

Widmer’s lawyers have contended that authorities rushed to judgment before fully investigating. They attacked the performance of officials in the case and brought to light misrepresentations in the employment documents of Lt. Jeff Braley, the Hamilton Township detective who headed the investigation.

Braley played a less-prominent role in the third trial, appearing only when he testified – and the judge forbade defense lawyers from attacking Braley’s credibility on the witness stand.

Widmer’s lawyers have contended that injuries found on Sarah Widmer were caused by medical procedures, that she could have suffered from a medical problem that contributed to her death, and that there was no evidence of the “violent struggle” that prosecutors portrayed in their initial news release about the case.

Prosecutors, however, have maintained that the county coroner’s declaration of “homicide” was soundly based on bruising inside Sarah Widmer’s neck, and that the chance of her suffering from an undiagnosed heart problem or seizure were remote at best.

Widmer’s 2009 trial ended in a guilty verdict but the judge set aside his conviction because of jury misconduct. Jurors had done home experiments to determine how long it takes a body to air-dry after bathing or showering – a key question because witnesses said Sarah Widmer’s body was dry but her hair was wet when police and medics arrived.

During this year’s trial, there were hints that officials were concerned about jury misconduct again. Bronson issued some stronger-than-usual admonitions on a couple occasions. But jurors repeatedly asserted that they had been complying with all the court’s restrictions.

Attorney Mark Krumbein, who has attended the trials, said the issue Braley’s background and the falsification of employment records can be grounds for appeal. Braley was the chief investigator in the case.

Another ground for appeal can be lack of funding, Krumbein said, noting Widmer's funding for witnesses cut from $50,000 to $12,000.

“That can be a problem,” Krumbein said.

During closing arguments Monday, the courtroom was packed to its capacity of about 100 spectators, including two "not guilty" jurors from Widmer's 2010 trial.


http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110215/NEWS010702/302150035
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Justice for Sarah Widmer Facebook page





"Let us not forget Ryan's family. We must act like civil human beings, not gloat, nor behave in any way disrespectful towards the Widmer family....Justice has been served and may Sarah finally rest in peace."




http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792#!/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792

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http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/crime/widmer_2009/jury-finds-ryan-widmer-guilty-of-murder
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Post by Estee on Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:36 pm

OMG...I can't believe it...I have kept up with this and the one day I go out with my Dau they come back with a verdict...I didn't think it would be this soon...and all 12 said GUILTY...I am devastated....I hope mz Crews is happy and Sarah's mom too...You better bet this will be appealed and if that Hutszel person denies it I hope they go after her...
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:03 pm

I'm anxious to hear the interviews from some of the jurors, I understand several stations have interviewed some of them, but they won't be broadcast until the 11pm news. It's also my understanding Sarah's mom seemed relieved leaving the courtroom. What a nightmare for both of these families. I watched an interview from another high profile defense attorney on the local news and he said Ryan forming "relationships" with these women after the fact most likely hurt him in the eyes of the jury. He said he felt the jury felt sympathy for Jennifer Crew, and he got too cozy and friendly with the more attractive Melissa Waller. And apparently, Sarah Manherz, Ryan's supposed girlfriend he met on FreeRyanWidmer.com was in the courtroom for the first time today. She moved from New York to West Chester, OH to be with Ryan. She did leave the courthouse with Ryan's dad today.


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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm

One of the news stations is reporting that juror #3 called into WLW, local radio station, he was an older gentleman. He said the 911 call, Ryan's demeanor in the courtroom & they felt Ryan was a cocky punk. They did not believe Waller or Crew...........
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:16 pm

Sounds to me, if this is true, they had their mind made up when they went into deliberations. They asked for the 911 call first. Just my opinion..........we'll hear more.

Estee, I wasn't expecting it this quick either. I think it surprised everyone!
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"Judge I did not do this. I don't know why this has to keep going on. I love Sarah. I would never hurt her. Never," Widmer said after the judge asked if he had anything to say to the court.


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Post by Sherry on Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:10 pm

I know it surprised me that the verdict came in so early. I'm just glad that it wasn't Crew's testimony that did any swaying as much as we know so far. I thought she was quite the drama queen on the stand. Enduring listening to her on the stand was akin to listening to Cindy Anthony on the stand->ack
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Post by Piper on Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:12 pm

Did justice prevail?

Posted: 02/15/2011
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Post by Ann - Tx on Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:19 am

Hi, Piper!

Thank you for posting all of the pics and videos. Please keep us posted on what the locals have to say!

Sarah was a pretty young lady.

It is so odd that Ryan got "involved" with these women after the fact. It just seems odd that if he was grieving for Sarah that he would give these gals the time of day.

Piper, is Ryan's mother and father still married? Does he have a step-mother?

If I had followed this case from day one, I would know the answer to my question.
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Post by Ann - Tx on Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:33 am

Jurors Speak About Finding Widmer Guilty Of Murder

WLWT - Cincinnati, OH

POSTED: 10:59 pm EST February 15, 2011
UPDATED: 12:45 am EST February 16, 2011

LEBANON, Ohio -- News 5 spoke with three jurors just hours after they found Ryan Widmer guilty of killing his wife.

All of them said the testimony of the so-called mystery witness, Jennifer Crew played no role in their decision. Crew testified that Widmer called her while intoxicated and confessed to killing Sarah because she was going to leave him. Crew contacted Widmer after seeing his story air on NBC's "Dateline".


Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/r/26881191/detail.html
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Post by Ann - Tx on Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:50 am

Ryan Widmer: Guilty again, courtroom erupts

kypost.com - Kentucky

Posted: 11:12 PM - February 15, 2011

LEBANON, Ohio - An explosion of emotion erupted in and outside the courtroom Tuesday when Ryan Widmer’s fate was determined by a jury of 12, after 12 hours of deliberation, who filed into the courtroom never looking in Ryan’s direction.

The judge read the words: “Ryan K. Widmer is guilty of murder.”

An emotional outburst rang throughout the crowded courtroom as a guilty verdict was read to Widmer, who stood sobbing, leaning over the table, head down, face in his hands, resting on the table.

Even before the verdict was read, began to cry. The jury form is handed to the bailiff. He delivered it to Judge Neal Bronson, who looked down at the piece of paper and reminded the galleries that the court would tolerate no outbursts.


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Post by Ann - Tx on Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:06 am

This site has a dedicated page regarding the Widmer case. Numerous articles, slide shows, videos, etc. It is excellent for someone (such as me) who has not followed the case from day one.

http://www.wcpo.com/subindex/news/crime/widmer_2009
WCPO Cincinnati, OH 2-16-11

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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:30 am

Ann - Tx wrote:Hi, Piper!

Thank you for posting all of the pics and videos. Please keep us posted on what the locals have to say!

Sarah was a pretty young lady.

It is so odd that Ryan got "involved" with these women after the fact. It just seems odd that if he was grieving for Sarah that he would give these gals the time of day.

Piper, is Ryan's mother and father still married? Does he have a step-mother?

If I had followed this case from day one, I would know the answer to my question.

Hi Ann! Thanks for all of the links. Ryan's parents are divorced, he does have a stepmother. Ryan's father did not attend the wedding. Sarah's mom, Ruth Ann, did not meet Ryan's mother until the wedding rehearsal/dinner. That is my understanding.


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"The jurors asked not to be identified at this point. One juror told News 5, "We did not take Jennifer Crew's testimony into account. We discredited her."

Another juror echoed that statement and said, "She was discredited, although we gave her a fair shot."

The jurors said what brought them to a guilty verdict in 12 hours of deliberations was the testimony about the bathroom and the 911 call.

"The 911 call did not sit well with us," one juror said. "That played a very big part. We listened to it five or six times."

One juror said it "sounded like he was faking it."

All three jurors said they really didn't want to find Widmer guilty.

"We tried everything we could to not find him guilty," one juror said.

All three said it was a difficult, but in the end, they said they did what prosecutors told them to do. They said they used their common sense and life experiences combined with the evidence. They said they all agreed Widmer intentionally killed his wife.

The jurors said the evidence did not support the defense's theory that Sarah had a seizure or medical condition."


http://www.wlwt.com/ryan-widmer-retrial/26881191/detail.html

This reporter said on the news last night that the 3 jurors told her it was the 911 call, they thought it sounded fake, and that the bathtub was dry.
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Widmer family friend speaks after the trial
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The WLWT site doesn't have a video embedding feature, dang them! We'll have to complain to Travis Gettys today, he's coming back on line at noon today.
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Post by Piper on Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:48 am

I'm sure his attorneys will appeal immediately. But in my opinion, this is the end of it. The Lt. Braley findings that weren't allowed in court and the lack of funding for more research into what happened to Sarah, I don't think that's going to make a difference on appeal, just my opinion.
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Ryan's father and stepmother after verdict
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