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Post by Ann - Tx on Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:52 pm

Hi, Justice!

Thanks for posting the videos to JVM and Nancy Grace!

I pray that these three precious little boys are found soon. John Skelton's story fell apart today. He needs to tell LE where his boys are.

This is just too sad and probably tragic.
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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:00 am

Still No Sign of Three Missing Morenci Boys

Updated: Monday, 29 Nov 2010, 10:49 PM EST
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WJBK | myFOXDetroit.com



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Skelton has now told a different tale to the authorities; this time that he dropped his sons on the side of a state route in Ohio.


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Re: Tanner, Alexander, and Andrew Skelton -- Missing 11/26/10

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:10 am

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John Skelton's mother, who lives in the Jacksonville, Fla., area, spoke Tuesday during a telephone interview.

"I thank everyone who is searching today," said Roxann Skelton. "They (volunteers) are in my prayers and so are my grandsons."

When asked if she has talked with her son, Roxann Skelton replied, "I cannot answer questions like that."

Read more: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/25931135/detail.html


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Well this mothwer is wise enough to leave out her son....

On account that she didnt mention her monster son.. that says she doesnt believe the old or new tale ....

Seeing this unfold reminds me of watching Caseys mug while in handcuffs, and hearing her yell at her family and demand TLs phone number where she never once mentioned Caylee, and watched as America looked for her beautiful little girl....It feels like yesterday...

I pray for the boys to be brought home...and for their mother who must be so broken...i cant imagine

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Post by Maat on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:38 am

On one interesting side note, I notice how the police are having NO trouble acknowledging that this father has lied. Something they have not done with TH regarding Kyron.

This is not sounding good. I was hoping the father really left them with this couple. It was the chance they were alive. I hate to think what this means. And I never could understand how one could reach the point to harm their children, especially, when the option to return them somewhere safely was right there.

It still makes me question why in the world were his visits NOT supervised? How did such an unstable person have free reign with his children?
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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:40 am

Records show custody fight over missing Mich. boys

COREY WILLIAMS
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November 30, 2010|6:19 a.m.

MORENCI, Mich. (AP) — When his wife filed for divorce in September, the father of three Michigan boys who are now missing picked two of them up from school early and drove out of state.

On Sept. 13, John Skelton packed his two oldest sons in the family van and drove to nearby Ohio — only to return and then take off with them again to Florida.

It was the start of a nasty custody battle and possible precursor to all three boys' disappearance last week before their dad's suicide attempt.

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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:43 am

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John Skelton filed a motion for custody on Sept. 27, saying his wife was a registered sex offender.

Tanya Skelton, 44, pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct in 1998, according to court records. Her misdemeanor plea was part of a plea bargain after she was accused of having sex with a 14-year-old boy who had worked for her and her former husband at rental properties in Morenci. Her divorce attorney, David McFarland, declined to comment.

Herrera said early Monday that Tanya Skelton's conviction was not relevant to the children's disappearance. She did not return a call later Monday after the AP obtained records detailing the complaint.

Sunday night, following a church vigil for the boy's safe return, Herrera had said John Skelton hadn't worked in a while. Tanya Skelton, who described herself in court documents as an at-home mother, attends a local college or community college, Herrera said.

The couple married in 2002 and filed for bankruptcy in 2003. The bankruptcy case was cleared later that year. Tanya Skelton asked for alimony and child support when she filed for divorce.

Both had earlier marriages that ended in divorce.

John Skelton spent time in jail in 2009 for failing to pay child support to his previous wife for their daughter.

Tanya Skelton's former husband filed for divorce shortly after she was charged in the criminal sexual conduct case. They had two daughters.
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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:44 am

Maat,

Im thinking that the mom, cudnt bear keeping her kids away from their dad who they prolly loved sooo much...

I doubt the mom cud have ever imagined that he cud be such a monster...

In reading about so many awful situations that can come from a divorce, it wud seem plausible at this point, that no matter how awful he was to her, she may have never imagined in a million years that he cud hurt his own children....

I also doubt that she spent much time on the puter, as after reading his sick words on his myspace ppage, that wud be enough to keeep him away from his kids for good...

Also, in many cases we see LE come right out and say their " poi: has lied and in the Kyron case, they havent said that ... they didnt say that with Misty either..

I believe when LE use cliches like " their strories are inconsistent" .. it is for one ppurpose only... to smear the persons credibility, to give LE the support they need to sit bak and do nothing, while trying to build a circumstantial case agasint the person...

I think this case is pretty clear... monster did the only thing he knew how to hurt Tanya, and that was by snufffing out the lives of her children.. just like KC did ...

How sad... the thought of being in arms length opf that monster, while ppl are out trying to find his children while he is in a netal ward, is just too much for words..

I pray those innocent babies are brought home today...

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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:49 am

John Skelton wasn't working, he spent time in jail just last year for failure to pay child support to his former wife for their daughter. Tanya was seeking alimony and child support for their three boys........I'd guess he didn't want more child support obligations hanging over his head.
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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:00 am

I used to believe convicted felons, and for that matter anyone convicted were guilty of the charges filed..

After researching many many cases, especially in small towns,. I now feel differently....

I used to have zero doubt that the "convicted felon's" charges must have been warranted, especially if there was a pplea deal and especially if the person suffered a loss (like a divorce or loss of job oor loss oof family support as a result..)

The truth of the matter is that despite any convictions, I can still have lots of reasonable doubt as to whether or not the charges were warranted..

After knowing about so mnay cases, where the " poi" had no choice other than plead guilty, and take a plea whether it was because to fight, or no support...where they stood to lose their freedom for years, I am a believer that there is still room for reasonable doubt even abfter convictions..

I never used to think this way, and it is only in the last couple of years, that I have formed this opinion..

I have lost faith in justice system..

That said, I believe that perps need to be vrought to justice by every inch of the law.. I believe in cap punishment.. what I dont believe in, anymore, are ciircumstantial cases..

I have said this before... I wud rather let a guilty man walk, than take away ann innocent mans freedom, which I am starting to realize is not the general consensus..

As long as the ppl who are sitting on jurys, dont have that opinion, I think circumstantial cases, shud be banned from our court system..clearly, they arent trustworthy, and seemingly moreso in smaller counties, as opposed to larger cities.. not thhat they cant happen in both, but the smaller places seem to more guilty of this imo..

I am personally tired, of seeing ppl, being legally stoned to death, by shoddy investigations, and biased reporting..

I am starting to wonder if electing officials, is working???


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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:45 am

I think it's sad when two adults can't go through a divorce without killing the other and the innocent children. He was using these little boys as pawns, and I'm afraid they've paid the ultimate price for his retribution against their mother. It's a horrible tragedy that didn't have to be. I hope he will tell the truth about where these little guys are and what he's done to them.
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Post by Sherry on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:03 am

awaiting justice, I've only recently come to your conclusion about the reasonable doubt after conviction. This mother's sex crime conviction is one of those times. It is extremely hard for someone accused of sexual assault of a minor to do anything but plea since juries and judges rarely find such an accused person innocent. With this mother I wonder if this boy got mad at her and accused her of deviant behavior with him. She wouldn't be the first case I've heard of.
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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:39 am

I don't know any of the circumstances about her conviction in that crime, so I don't have an opinion on that. I do think her husband has held this over her head though, he used it in the custody filing.


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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:41 am

Search for 3 missing boys likely to end in nightmare, Morenci police chief says

Posted: 10:49 a.m. Nov. 30, 2010
By Gina Damron
Free Press Staff Writer

The search for three missing Morenci boys has turned ominous.

Morenci Police Chief Larry Weeks said at a news conference this morning that based on information provided to law enforcement officials by their father, John Skelton, police "do not anticipate a positive outcome here."

He wouldn't comment on specifically what information is leading police to that conclusion, simply saying it was statements made by Skelton.

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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:43 am

Sad

How can a parent be so selfish and cruel! Three more perfectly innocent little children.........
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:14 pm

Police Chief says new info on missing boys suggests there will not be a positive outcome

Posted: 11/27/2010
Last Updated: 1 hour and 28 minutes ago
By: Tom Wait



MORENCI, Mich. (WXYZ) - Police are now saying they have developed new information in the search for three missing boys that has led them to believe there will not be a "positive outcome" in the case.

The revelation came from Morenci Police Chief Larry Weeks during a morning news conference. During the news update he told members of the media, "There's been information that's developed since last we spoke that, based on the information that we have, we do not anticipate a positive outcome."

Speaking about the investigation, Weeks spoke about the boy's father, saying "We've continued to talk to all parties involved with this investigation, including Mr. Skelton. Statements he's made to investigators would indicate that it's not gonna be a positive outcome."


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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:16 pm







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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:21 pm

Sherry wrote:awaiting justice, I've only recently come to your conclusion about the reasonable doubt after conviction. This mother's sex crime conviction is one of those times. It is extremely hard for someone accused of sexual assault of a minor to do anything but plea since juries and judges rarely find such an accused person innocent. With this mother I wonder if this boy got mad at her and accused her of deviant behavior with him. She wouldn't be the first case I've heard of.

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Sherry... we certainly think alike on this matter.. I recently researched a case in Coquille Ore where LE, (the same ppl who were the ones who put together the cold case of Leah Freeman) ...busted a high school track coach allegedly, TWO DAYS after a minor (who turned of legal age), called LE and told him that he had some kind of ilegal contact with the coach (it was never said specifically) and thet hwe went on to tell LE that this coach was allegedly sleeping with 2 other minor boys on the track team.....

Of course they arrested her and charged her... nearly a yr later, and the day before it was going to to court, the charges were dropped...

This adult accuser wrote the Oregon newspaper and told them (paraphrasing) that he was pretty well being coerced and harrassed and he said he was never going to testify... It was also said in the same article that LE said the other 2 minors (who must have been the ones that buddy told LE about ) NEVER COOPERATED.....

That pretty well told me that they denied it....

So here LE go and arrest this woman, days later where her life was ruined... oh, LE did find out that she cheated on her spouse twice (with adults..not children) ...

Allegedly she had the support of her spouse and family behind her, and was prepared to fight it .. (and some money too) ...

Luckily, it turned out she never had too take the chance of serving time annd being a registered sex offeender (where he children had even been removed from her) ....

It was horrible to see that such a shoddy investigation took place without a thorough investigation.. If this was true, it wud have been easy to catch her..

Yet, they went and charged her and ruined her life, all at the word f an apparewtnloy disgruntled minor turned adult... the only thing she admitted too was taking special care of this now adult from his younger yrs where she wud help him out as he had no family.. she wud drive him to his g/f and give him money becasue she cared for him.. and it was noted that he had emotional issues..

ISNT that sick??????

So now every time I hear about a convicted felon... this above case is only one of SEVERAL where the sitch is very similar .. different players and diff reasons.. all boiling down to the same crap.... BAD LE work and judgment ...

Isnt it a shame that LE wud mess up, and be so knee jerk, in such serious allegations???? This type of subpar work is why no one can trust anyone, and why our registry is so filled with crap, that it is impossible to take a glance and predict who the responsible monster is in many cases...

So, I dont feel safe anymore not having an opinion.. It seems we are forced too... seems we have to pick and choose, because of this rampant problem.. jmo!

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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:51 pm

Per WXYZ, Detroit, Michigan, a Press Conference is scheduled for 3 p.m. EST today.

Posted: 11/27/2010

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MORENCI, Mich. (WXYZ) - A press conference has been scheduled for 3:00 p.m. at the Morenci Fire Department to announce recent developments in the case of three missing boys.

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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:57 pm

How horrible... they said it isnt a positive outcome..

seems predictable ... monster prolly told them where they were to spare his own sick life...

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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:05 pm

Here is the Link to the Live Stream from WXYZ for the Press Conference.

http://www.wxyz.com/subindex/news/news_livestream1
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CNN-HLN is also going to cover it (so they say).
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:08 pm

Per the Press Conference, John Skelton has been arrested. I think the charge, at this time, is parental kidnapping - three counts. John was released from the mental hospital (mental care facility?) and immediately arrested and taken into custody.

He has not been arraigned yet. Per the Police Chief, he will have to be extradited.


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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:09 pm

Per CNN-HLN, Nancy Grace will be covering the Skelton missing children story tonight at 8 and 10 EST (7 and 9 CST).
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:35 pm

Per CNN-HLN, Jane Velez-Mitchell will be covering this story at 6 p.m. CST.
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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:05 pm

awaiting justice wrote:How horrible... they said it isnt a positive outcome..

seems predictable ... monster prolly told them where they were to spare his own sick life...
Unfortunately Michigan doesn't have the death penalty, so authorities can't use that as leverage to get Skelton to talk.
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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:37 pm

Source: Police say father admitted to killing sons

Updated: 11.30.2010 at 2:05 PM

MORENCI, MICH. -- As authorities and volunteers continue to search for three missing brothers from Morenci, Michigan, investigators say they have low expectations.

The search is on for any sign of 5-year-old Tanner, 7-year-old Alexander, and 9-year-old Andrew Skelton; however, during a morning press conference on Tuesday, authorities said they do not "anticipate a positive outcome" in the case after days of searching and based on information from the boys' father.

According to sources, Morenci Police say John Skelton has admitted to FBI profilers that he killed his sons. No further details were released regarding the admission.


Read more: http://www.toledoonthemove.com/news/story.aspx?id=547819
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Post by Ann - Tx on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:53 pm

Justice,

I am so sorry to hear that Michigan does not have the death penalty. If ever there was a case that deserves the death penalty, this is it.

Since Michigan does not have the death penalty, I guess the next best punishment would be life without parole if John is found guilty of the murder of his three sons. Then he could have the rest of his disgusting life to think about his three precious boys.

I won't buy into a temporary insanity plea either. From what has been disclosed, it appears John Skelton does not have a long history of being treated for mental illness or of ever being treated for mental illness.

In fact, it seems like he may have planned this for a while.

It seems like it could have been a revenge thing against Tanya.

I saw an article yesterday that stated Tanya served a year in prison for the sexual assault charges regarding the 14 year old child. Maybe John did not want her to be around her own little boys. Who knows what makes a person like John tick!

It won't surprise me if his defense will be temporary insanity. I don't know anything about Michigan law and don't even know if that is a viable plea.


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Post by Maat on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:47 pm

In the state mental hospital, if you are found incompetent to stand trial, or not guilty by reason of insanity, you are locked up in the forensic unit, and there you stay until the judges determine you are no longer a menace to society.

There are people who have been locked up in a mental facility for years. One person has been locked up 5+ years, so far, for threatening to beat up someone. Not physically doing it, but threatening to do it. The judge refuses to release the person because he doesn't want this person back in his town. The mental patient aggravates him and gets on his nerves.

While this is an abuse of the judge's power in my mind, it does relieve me a little when I think of people who are going for that defense to something serious. They may never see a free day again.
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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:01 pm

Ann - Tx wrote:I saw an article yesterday that stated Tanya served a year in prison for the sexual assault charges regarding the 14 year old child. Maybe John did not want her to be around her own little boys. Who knows what makes a person like John tick!
One of the hosts on CNN last night was hopeful that John really did give somebody the children because of this and made up the Joann story as a cover, but I think it's a long shot. I read somewhere that he knew about the charges before he married Tanya and had children with her. If he legitimately had a problem with her past or her being around his children, I don't think he would've married her or had children with her in the first place. It seems to me that he only has a problem with her past charges when he can hold them over her head and try to use them as a weapon to get what he wants.
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Post by Piper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:06 pm

"According to sources, Morenci Police say John Skelton has admitted to FBI profilers that he killed his sons. No further details were released regarding the admission."

I'd say it's a recovery, not a rescue, at this point. Selfishness and spite, how any father could do this to his three little boys is beyond comprehension. So, so tragic........
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Post by Justice4all on Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:02 pm

JVM 11/30/10