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Post by Nan11 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:08 am

This is the 'note' that was found in Grant and Amanda's apartment after Laura was murdered.  I'm am not buying that Laura signed this note.

I think we will hear more about it.
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@ about 21:12 http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12847559/#/vid12847559

Written in one hand:
I, Laura J. Ackerson, for the sum of $25,000.00, agree not to pursue custody of the two minor children, Grant and Gentle Hayes.  I am not surrendering parental rights, but I do consent to leaving them in the sole custody of their father, for now.  Further, I agree to drop all pending litigation against their father in the Lenoir County Family Court.

Written in a separate hand:
By notifying counsel, John Sergeant, of our arrangement less the monetary compensation, I understand that I will be able to see my kids whenever I want to, at the discretion of their father.

Originally Dated 6/13/11; then changed to 7/13/11 with the initials LA and a signature Laura Ackerson.
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Post by Nan11 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:27 am

Below is the front door of Grant and Amanda's apartment, from the hallway outside.


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Below is inside Grant and Amanda's front door.

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Below notice the red dot on the floor which denotes the area where the three foot bleach stain was found.

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Below is the dining room area, to the right of the front door.


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Below is the master bedroom, (utilized as an office/storage/changing room area.)

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Below is a view of Amanda's sister's property
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Post by Nan11 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:13 am

Mr. Wolfe has done another article on Laura's case.  Yay!  I really do like his articles.  However, in this particular write-up I may question a few of his dates, but as this is one of the more complicated cases I have followed in that regard, that's all I'll do--just question.
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Kinston.com | Raleigh detectives testify on Ackerson murder investigation
By Wes Wolfe / Staff Writer | Published: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 at 22:06 PM.

"RALEIGH — Grant Hayes’ own mobile phone gave up his location.

As Raleigh homicide detectives investigated the disappearance of Laura Ackerson and the whereabouts of Hayes, his wife Amanda and Hayes’ children, they called in Keith Heckman — of the Raleigh Police Department’s Tactical Assistance Response Unit — to get tell-tale information from mobile phone use.

With the cooperation of Ackerson’s carrier — T-Mobile — and Grant Hayes’ provider — AT&T — Heckman was able to determine Ackerson’s last call was to Grant Hayes at 4:49 p.m. on July 13, 2011, the day she disappeared.

According to Heckman, mobile phone tower triangulation data put Ackerson in the general area north and east of the intersection of U.S. 70 and I-440 — a route she would have taken after leaving Kinston and headed to the Hayes’ apartment in Raleigh.

In trying to find Grant Hayes’ location, Heckman turned to AT&T’s GPS data, because when on, an AT&T phone sends its general latitude and longitude data to AT&T every 15 minutes. Heckman testified that Grant Hayes’ phone placed him within a 223-foot reliability of Amanda Hayes’ sister’s residence in rural East Texas.

A document provided by AT&T and placed into evidence related the same information."


http://www.kinston.com/news/local/raleigh-detectives-testify-on-ackerson-murder-investigation-1.197162?page=0
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Post by Nan11 on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:37 am

Following are the live stream links for the trial today.  Very Happy
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http://www.wral.com/news/video/12826677/#/vid12826677

ABC
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=9223333

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http://wildabouttrial.com/grant-hayes-live-stream.html


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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:11 pm



Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 1)

Part 1 of Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police detective Sgt. Robert Latour Jr

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851144/#/vid12851144




Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 2)

Part 2 of Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police detective Sgt. Robert Latour Jr.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851148/




Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 3)

Part 3 of Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police detective Sgt. Robert Latour Jr.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851155/#/vid12851155




Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 4)

Part 4 of Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police detective Sgt. Robert Latour Jr.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851159/#/vid12851159
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:16 pm

Hayes bought acid days after Ackerson's death

Posted: 2:32 p.m. today
Updated: 7 minutes ago




Grant Hayes talks with his attorney during his first-degree murder trial on Sept. 4, 2013, as Raleigh police detective Sgt. Robert Latour testifies about security video in which Hayes is seen renting a U-Haul trailer. Prosecutors contend he used the trailer to haul Laura Ackerson's dismembered remains to Richmond, Texas, where they were discovered 11 days after her death.

Raleigh, N.C. — Raleigh police detectives investigating a Kinston woman's death found discarded containers of muriatic acid at the end of a street near the Texas creek where her dismembered remains were recovered more than two years ago, one of the detectives testified Wednesday in her ex-boyfriend's first-degree murder trial.

Sgt. Robert Latour said the containers were similar to the ones that a security camera captured Grant Hayes buying at a Texas Home Depot on July 19, 2011 – six days after Laura Jean Ackerson, 27, was last seen alive and a day after a colleague reported her missing.

Read more:

http://www.wral.com/hayes-bought-acid-days-after-ackerson-s-death/12850982/
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Post by Freckles on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:22 pm

Hayes bought acid days after Ackerson's death
Seo 4 2013

" Raleigh, N.C. — Raleigh police detectives investigating a Kinston woman's death found discarded containers of muriatic acid at the end of a street near the Texas creek where her dismembered remains were recovered more than two years ago, one of the detectives testified Wednesday in her ex-boyfriend's first-degree murder trial.

More Info     Shelton Berry Full video: Grant Hayes murder trial

Sgt. Robert Latour said the containers were similar to the ones that a security camera captured Grant Hayes buying at a Texas Home Depot on July 19, 2011 – six days after Laura Jean Ackerson, 27, was last seen alive and a day after a colleague reported her missing...."


"... On cross-examination, Latour said that even though it was Grant Hayes who bought the acid, it was Amanda Hayes who was captured on a hidden camera in her nephew's truck discarding the containers of acid.... "
http://www.wral.com/hayes-bought-acid-days-after-ackerson-s-death/12850982/




And here is the foundation for Amanda's acts: The post-partums coming right up!!!


" ...Defense attorneys contend that she killed Ackerson during a fight and that Grant Hayes made a "terrible mistake" to cover for his wife by helping dispose of Ackerson's remains.

"You'll see a lot of hostility between Laura Ackerson and Amanda Hayes," attorney Will Durham said during opening statements last week. "The evidence will show that Amanda Hayes was extremely resentful of Laura Ackerson."

Entries in Ackerson's diary support that claim. On one occasion, she wrote that Amanda Hayes was "psycho crazy" and on another, she talked about confronting her after an argument in front of Ackerson's two 2- and 3-year-old sons whom she had with Hayes.

Latour came to a similar conclusion after reviewing some of the entries.

"She had somewhat of a tumultuous relationship with both Grant and Amanda," he said. ..."
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:45 pm

Hayes asked relative about alligators

Updated at 03:46 PM today

RALEIGH (WTVD) -- Testimony in the trial of a Raleigh man accused of killing the mother of his two eldest children and cutting up her body dipped into the gruesome Wednesday, as witnesses spoke about the creek in Texas where the woman's remains were found.

~Snipped~

On the witness stand Wednesday, Raleigh Police Department detective Robert Latour Jr told jurors that Hayes purchased muriatic acid at a Home Depot after arriving in Texas and that the discarded containers were found on a street near where Ackerman's remains were recovered by divers with the Houston, Texas police department.

Latour also described the divers finding Ackerman's torso and later her head. He said the head was different in appearance - the inference being that it was placed in the acid before it was put in the water.

Later in the day, Amanda's nephew Shelton Berry spoke about the boat that Grant and Amanda allegedly used to go out on the creek to dump the body parts.

Berry said Hayes had asked him if there were alligators in the water and if they ate people.

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http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9236211
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Post by Freckles on Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:51 pm

Hayes asked relative about alligators
Wednesday, September 04, 2013


" ... Later in the day, Amanda's nephew Shelton Berry spoke about the boat that Grant and Amanda allegedly used to go out on the creek to dump the body parts.

Berry said Hayes had asked him if there were alligators in the water and if they ate people.

Next on the stand was Berry's brother Dalton who said he overheard a phone conversation Hayes was having with someone while packing to go home.

"He said 'I don't need an alibi. I was with my family,'" Dalton Berry testified....."



http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9236211
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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:19 am

Following are parts 5, 6, and 7 of yesterday's testimony.
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 5)

Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Shelton Berry.

 http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851591/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 6)

Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Dalton Berry.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12851673/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 4 pt 7)

Sept. 4, 2013, testimony of Kim Oreskovich, a crime scene investigator with the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office in Fort Bend County, Texas.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12852024/


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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:21 am

Following are the live stream links for the trial today.  Very Happy
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http://www.wral.com/news/video/12826677/#/vid12826677

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http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=9223333

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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:32 am

This is a decent recap of yesterday's proceedings.  For a very short version, it's not bad--2 minutes and 13 seconds duration.
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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:45 pm

I'm starting to find the thread is slow to load due to all the videos.  I thought I would try embedding the first one of the day, and then links for the rest.
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 1)

Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Kim Oreskovich, a crime scene investigator with the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office in Fort Bend County, Texas.


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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 2)

Part 1 of Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office detective Brad Wichard.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855107/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 3)

Part 2 of Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office detective Brad Wichard.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855112/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 4)

Part 3 of Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office detective Brad Wichard.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855465/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 5)

Part 1 of Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Brian Davis, a member of the Houston Police Department Dive Team.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855469/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 6)

Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Dr. Ricky Carlyle.  (Laura's dentist.)

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855474/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 7)

Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Raymond Boyer Jr.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855861/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 8)

Part 2 of Sept. 5, 2013, testimony of Brian Davis, a member of the Houston Police Department Dive Team.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855865/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 5 pt 9)

Sept. 5, 2013, voir dire of Dr. Paul Stimson.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12855868/


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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:58 pm

WRAL | Photos show Hayes' wife dumping cartons of acid
Updated: 3:30 p.m. | 9/5/13



"Brad Wichard, a homicide detective for the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office, said Amanda Hayes was caught on a security camera dumping four cartons containing seven full one-gallon bottles of muriatic acid at the end of a cul-de-sac 1.6 miles from the home of her sister, Karen Berry. An eighth bottle was missing.

Security video and a receipt from a home improvement store showed that Grant Hayes bought acid, as well as a 32-gallon trash can and a large pair of neoprene gloves.

The packaging from those gloves, Wichard said, was found near an empty hog pen near Berry's home. Police collected samples of discolored soil as well as part of the pen's fence that had been corroded."


http://www.wral.com/photos-show-hayes-wife-dumping-cartons-of-acid/12854919/



WRAL | "Jurors in the first-degree murder trial of Grant Hayes saw this photo on Sept. 5, 2013. The photo from a security video in Richmond, Texas, shows who investigators say is his wife, Amanda Hayes, removing cartons of acid from a truck and discarding them less than 2 miles from the home of her sister."  (From above link.)


WRAL | "Jurors in the first-degree murder trial of Grant Hayes saw this photo on Sept. 5, 2013. The photo is of a hog pen in Richmond, Texas, where investigators found discolored soil as well as a corroded piece of fencing."  (From above link.)


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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:08 pm

The short video is very good.  It focuses on Karen, Amanda's sister, saying how the defense wants the prosecution to call her; and mentions that Amanda told Karen that Amanda had hurt Laura, quote, "real bad."

The defense tried hard to get Detective Wichard to talk about the above, but they had no luck.  :)
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ABC11 | Hayes' jury sees coolers that allegedly held body parts
Thursday, September 05, 2013



"A crime scene investigator from Texas also told jurors Thursday about other evidence she found.

"We found the hair stuck to the inside of the trailer," said Kim Oreskovich with the Fort Bend County, Texas Sheriff's Office.

Apparently the hair belonged to Ackerson.

On the witness stand Wednesday, Raleigh Police Department detective Robert Latour Jr told jurors that Hayes purchased muriatic acid at a Home Depot after arriving in Texas and that the discarded containers were found on a street near where Ackerman's remains were recovered by divers with the Houston, Texas police department.

Latour also described the divers finding Ackerman's torso and later her head. He said the head was different in appearance - the inference being that it was placed in the acid before it was put in the water."


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9237217


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Post by Freckles on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:36 pm

Thanks for the links! Really appreciate.

"..Brad Wichard, a homicide detective for the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office, said Amanda Hayes was caught on a security camera dumping four cartons containing seven full one-gallon bottles of muriatic acid at the end of a cul-de-sac 1.6 miles from the home of her sister, Karen Berry. An eighth bottle was missing.

Security video and a receipt from a home improvement store showed that Grant Hayes bought acid, as well as a 32-gallon trash can and a large pair of neoprene gloves.

The packaging from those gloves, Wichard said, was found near an empty hog pen near Berry's home. Police collected samples of discolored soil as well as part of the pen's fence that had been corroded. ... "

http://www.wral.com/photos-show-hayes-wife-dumping-cartons-of-acid/12854919/

Illegal dumping, at the least.
Soil contamination, an environmental hazard.
Now who buys this acid JUST to throw out the gallons not used?
A logical person would have returned the unused portions to the store for a refund.... That was a LOT of chemical tossed...
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Post by Freckles on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:41 pm

Clipped---

"..."We found the hair stuck to the inside of the trailer," said Kim Oreskovich with the Fort Bend County, Texas Sheriff's Office. ... "

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9237217

I have missed so much of this trial.Very interesting and well documented trial.

Do we know IF any of the nephews, Shelton or Dalton, were with Grant/Amanda when Laura's body was dumped in the creek?

Did either of the two nephews look inside the coolers?

What condition were the coolers in when they were "gifted" to the nephews?

What explanation was offered for WHY Grant/Amanda had so many coolers?

Did the nephews see inside the trailer and perhaps see ALL the boxes of muriatic acid? IF so, did they ask WHY?
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Post by Nan11 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:13 pm

The following video is linked above, but I have embedded it here as this voir dire was not shown live today.  They must have done it after the video feed stopped for the day.
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Sept. 5, 2013, voir dire of Dr. Paul Stimson.  (Forensic Odontologist)

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:09 pm

 Nan11, thank you for posting the videos of today's proceedings. I couldn't watch the trial or join all of you in the chat today, I was too busy. I'm going to watch the videos tonight.

Many thanks for all the information that you have posted.

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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:14 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote: Nan11, thank you for posting the videos of today's proceedings. I couldn't watch the trial or join all of you in the chat today, I was too busy.  I'm going to watch the videos tonight.

Many thanks for all the information that you have posted.

You're most welcome!    
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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:06 am

I did a couple of screen shots from the trial videos, which are not as clear as I hoped.

This one is the schematic for the Skinner Lane property.  
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My typed transcription of the "Key:"  (Very Unofficial.)

A – 75 qt Coleman Ice Chest
B – 120 qt Coleman Ice Chest
C – Black Machete [Unintelligible]
D – Green Towel/Tan Towel
E – Hotel Receipt with writing (email address to Kinston PD Inv)
F – Shotgun in case
G – Soil [Unintelligible] **My notes indicate the roll of wire and the black plastic waste container came from this location, as well as the soil samples.
H – Chemical glove carton
I – Debris pile [Unintelligible]
J – Debris pile [Unintelligible]
K – Maroon/Silver Ford F-350 [Unintelligible]
L – Black Ford F-150 [Unintelligible]
M – Red Mazda [Unintelligible]
N – Tie down strips
O – Plastic Garbage Bag
P – Wooden cabinet (2 piece) and surface top
Q – Septic Tank
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Schematic for the inside of the residence.



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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:32 am

This is the location of the remains. From my notes:

(#1 is Shelton's boat, but it is not marked.)

#2 - torso section
#3 - torso section
#4 - leg section
#5 - head
#6 - thigh

#7 - leg section


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For the location of #7, look right up at the very top of the picture below.  Just to the right in the waterway, you should see a very faint red dot.  Incredibly, that is where it was found.


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I captured this to show how much effort the divers put into finding Laura.  The depth of the water is about eight feet, and the divers had to part the lily reeds one by one to look through them.  They were so thick, high and tight that a boat couldn't pass through.

A little to the right of the center of the picture, you should see something pink.  That is a ribbon that they used to mark the location where one section had been found.

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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:42 am

Here is a new map adding the stop in Montgomery, Alabama on the 17th.

This is a very rough timeline, but it looks like they left Raleigh on the 16th and arrived in Richmond on the 18th; stayed the 19th, 20th, 21st; and left Richmond on the 22nd and arrived in Raleigh on the 24th.

They were arrested at 1:00 am on July 25th at Grant's parent's home.


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A = Grant and Amanda’s apartment Raleigh, NC
B = Motel 6 in Montgomery, Alabama where Grant, Amanda, and kids spent the night of July 17, 2011.
C = Amanda’s sister’s residence on Skinner Lane, in Richmond, Texas.
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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:22 am

Thanks, Nan! You have put a lot of time into sharing the above links.
Helps those of us not able to stay on top of the case...
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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:36 am

Freckles wrote:Thanks, Nan! You have put a lot of time into sharing the above links.
Helps those of us not able to stay on top of the case...
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You're welcome, Freckles.  
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Post by Nan11 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:37 am

Following are the live stream links for the trial today.  Very Happy
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ABC
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=9223333

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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:56 pm

Found an index to WRAL's trial vids:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/asset_gallery/12826513/


Here are today's links:

Dr Paul Stimson, forensic dentist:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12858393/#/vid12858393

Det David Moore:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/asset_gallery/12826513/

Michael Galloway:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12859070/#/vid12859070

Dr. Nobby Mambo, chief ME:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12860217/#/vid12860217
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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:58 pm

Other WRAL links on the murder:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/asset_gallery/12826471/
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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:30 pm

So if Grant and Laura were NOT legally married...
when they filed their IRS fed taxes... how were they listed?
Do we get to see the IRS going after Grant for his lies?
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:05 pm

Graphic testimony dominates Hayes murder trial for third day
Posted: 5:52 p.m. today  Updated: 6:00 p.m. today

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Raleigh, N.C. — Jurors in the trial of a Raleigh man accused of killing his ex-girlfriend two years ago and dumping her dismembered body in a Texas creek saw more graphic photos Friday of her decomposed remains as Wake County prosecutors continued laying out their case against him.

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Dr. Nobby Mambo, deputy chief medical examiner of the Galveston County Medical Examiner's Office in Galveston, Texas, who performed an initial autopsy on the remains, testified that he could not determine a cause of death but classified it as "undetermined homicidal violence."

While prosecutors haven't publicly stated their case, witness testimony so far in the trial has suggested that the Hayeses tried using acid to destroy Ackerson's remains.

Dr. Paul Stimson, a forensic dentist, testified Friday he found acid etching on one of Ackerson's teeth, which could have been consistent with a cleaning agent known as muriatic acid.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:06 pm

@Nan - awesome job on the screen shots, maps, and photos!

Thank you for capturing these!
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:35 am

@Freckles

Thank you for posting the links to the videos.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:38 am

@Nan

Great job capturing the images from the videos, thank you!

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Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:14 am

ABC 11 | Judge tries to limit grisly pictures in Ackerson murder case
Friday, September 06, 2013



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RALEIGH (WTVD) -- When jurors were initially questioned about serving in the Grant Hayes trial, lawyers asked them if they could deal with looking at pictures of a dead person. Few probably realized how gruesome the case would be.
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The day began with testimony from a forensic dentist who explained how he identified Ackerson through dental records - including showing them pictures of her skull and teeth.

Jurors got a break with the second witness of the day - an investigator who showed them testy text messages between Hayes and Ackerson.
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Read more:  http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9239102
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Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:06 pm

Below is Grant's indictment handed down by the grand jury.  It's kind of thin--not much to it, but it does seem to include murder in the second degree as a lesser offense.

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The defendant’s actions were in violation of N.C.S.G. 14-17.


http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wtvd/docs/Hayes%20murder%20indictments_20110808131701.pdf
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Following is the North Carolina statues 14-17.

Homicide.

§ 14‑17.� Murder in the first and second degree defined; punishment.

A murder which shall be perpetrated by means of a nuclear, biological, or chemical weapon of mass destruction as defined in G.S. 14‑288.21, poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, torture, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing, or which shall be committed in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of any arson, rape or a sex offense, robbery, kidnapping, burglary, or other felony committed or attempted with the use of a deadly weapon shall be deemed to be murder in the first degree, a Class A felony, and any person who commits such murder shall be punished with death or imprisonment in the State's prison for life without parole as the court shall determine pursuant to G.S. 15A‑2000,
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All other kinds of murder, including that which shall be proximately caused by the unlawful distribution of opium or any synthetic or natural salt, compound, derivative, or preparation of opium, or cocaine or other substance described in G.S. 90‑90(1)d., or methamphetamine, when the ingestion of such substance causes the death of the user, shall be deemed murder in the second degree, and any person who commits such murder shall be punished as a Class B2 felon.


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I notice there is a Class C felony called malicious maiming.
 
Felony Offense Classification | Including Classifications:  A; B 1 & 2; and C.
http://www.nccourts.org/courts/crs/councils/spac/documents/2003felonyoffenseclassificationlist.pdf
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That's all I could find, though.  WRAL seems to start the videos with the opening statements, so if the judge read the full charges to the jury it doesn't seem to be available.  I also checked YouTube, but they all seem to be identical to what WRAL has posted.

I think the judge will read them to the jury again just as they go into deliberations.  Hopefully we will get to hear that part.
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Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:07 pm

This video begins talking about the indictments, but it continues showing clips of Grant singing the song he wrote and performed about have Laura killed.  A transcript containing a few words to the song is quoted in the second link, but the video at that link will no longer play.

 http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8295341

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ABC11 | Song allegedly written about murdered woman

Saturday, July 30, 2011

Snipped . . .

The following lines are from the chorus. "My babies momma, don't talk to me. Don't want your drama. I got two kids by you; I can't take anymore from you."

The song continues with lyrics about their custody battle. "I would wake up every morning hoping one of us would go, but not me 'cause I'm paying the bills. Find another Sugar Daddy and a wallet with bills 'cause I know that you will when you finish trying to take my kids (unintelligible) that's how you is..."

The song also seems to include a warning for the young mother. "And then she wants me to pay her. You've lost your da-- mind. I put a price tag on your head. That's right. You must have told your attorney I got intentions on killing you. What? (unintelligible) Might stop me, but my bullets will get you soon. I've got my goons from way back. They still owe me money, told them you stayed at my mom's crib. Now ain't that funny?"


Read more:  http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8276829
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Interesting, too.

See at 47:02 minutes in of the video linked below for the following:

Defense Attorney:  Do you recall a song that Grant wrote about her [Laura] saying those kind of things about him?
Prosecutor:  Objection!
Judge:  Sustained.
Sha:  I helped him record . . .
Judge:  No.  Wait, wait, wait.  [To defense attorney:  Go to your next question.]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12838537/
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Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:16 pm

@CP -  I checked my notes concerning how many times Amanda has been married.  It is 4 times:  

1) Amanda's first husband was Sha's father.  She separated from him before Sha was a year old.
2) Amanda's second husband was Ron--they eventually separated.
3) Amanda's third husband was Nicky.  He died.
4) 10 to 11 years later, and next in line, was Grant R. Hayes, III.

This info comes from Sha's testimony at Grant's trial.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:56 pm

Nan11 wrote:

{Snipped for space}

Interesting, too.

See at 47:02 minutes in of the video linked below for the following:

Defense Attorney:  Do you recall a song that Grant wrote about her [Amanda] saying those kind of things about him?
Prosecutor:  Objection!
Judge:  Sustained.
Sha:  I helped him record . . .
Judge:  No.  Wait, wait, wait.  [To defense attorney:  Go to your next question.]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12838537/
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I'm confused.  If he wrote a song about killing her, why would the prosecutor object?  Wouldn't he want to get that in front of the jury?
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:59 pm

Nan11 wrote:@CP -  I checked my notes concerning how many times Amanda has been married.  It is 4 times:  

1) Amanda's first husband was Sha's father.  She separated from him before Sha was a year old.
2) Amanda's second husband was Ron--they eventually separated.
3) Amanda's third husband was Nicky.  He died.
4) 10 to 11 years later, and next in line, was Grant R. Hayes, III.

This info comes from Sha's testimony at Grant's trial.
Thanks, Nan!  I appreciate you going back to check.

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Re: Laura Jean Ackerson -- Deceased 7/13/11 -- Grant and Amanda Hayes Charged With Murder

Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:10 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:I'm confused.  If he wrote a song about killing her, why would the prosecutor object?  Wouldn't he want to get that in front of the jury?
That's an interesting question.  The judge sustained quickly, so I'm guessing there had been pretrial motions keeping the song out.

As to why, since the defense seemed eager to get it in, I'm guessing that Amanda as well as Sha had a hand in the song--either the writing of, or producing, or who knows.

Just look at the witnesses we haven't seen, and are not likely to see--Karen being one of them.  Why wouldn't the State call her?  Because on cross a lot of questions could be asked.  Just sayin'
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Nan11 wrote:Comment snipped to show section surrounding corrected part only.

See at 47:02 minutes in of the video linked below for the following:

Defense Attorney:  Do you recall a song that Grant wrote about her [Laura] saying those kind of things about him?
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12838537/#/vid12838537


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Post by Nan11 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:22 pm

Text Messages Extracted from Grant’s Samsung Phone

Received Messages:  From Laura to Grant

@ 4:27 pm | Sunday - Feb. 20, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
We had a peepee accident and were sidetracked.  We will be a bit late to Sheetz.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

@6:37 pm |Tuesday - March 1, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Could you please have more respect for the short intervals that I get with my children every day?  I don’t get to put them in bed or help them brush their . . .

7 seconds later | . . . teeth or watch them play 5 days out of the week.  Can you please just respect the 30 minutes per day that I get to be a mom?  Could you just for a second?

9 minutes after 6:37 | Tuesday - March 1, 2011 |From Laura to New Number
Something other than what you are now.  The few times that you guys have called I have kept it quiet and non distracting.  I don’t expect . . .

7 seconds later | Tuesday - March 1, 2011 | From Laura to New Number
. . . silent, just respectful of the short amount of time the boys and I get together – regardless of how trivial it may seem to you.

Click on spoiler for more.
Spoiler:
@ 6:40 pm | Wednesday - March 16, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Not only is it rude to constantly have the TV on when I’m trying to talk with Grant and Gentle, but it makes you guys look bad to anyone who hears the re . . .

6 seconds later | Wednesday - March 16, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
. . . cording of the call.  Could you please give it a rest and work with me here?  WE have two children.  Not you, WE.  I will always be their mom and it’s bes . . .

? seconds later | Wednesday - March 16, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
. . . t if they have a healthy relationship with me.  Could you encourage that please?

@ 1:48 pm | Friday - April 22, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
No.  Sorry.  Next time do some planning ahead.

@ 2:19 pm | Friday - April 22, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Look – if you would like to change plans with me just ask me.  Don’t bribe me.  Talk with me like we are both adults with capability of being reasonable.

@ 2:19:32 pm | Friday - April 22, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
I’m telling you no because I want you to stop ‘giving to get.’  Also I have plans with and for them.  If you had talked about this with me last week . . .

@ 2:19:40 pm | Friday - April 22, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
. . . or even by Monday. I would be much more likely to accommodate.  Please just learn to be respectful of other people’s time instead of manipulating it.  Thanks.

@ 2:26:06 pm | Sunday - May 15, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
No, I’m not spending my day doing any of your bidding.  You can see his eye when you pick him up tomorrow.  It doesn’t look much different.  I’ll let you . . .

@8:02:01 am | Wednesday - May 18, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
I apologize.  I drank for the first time in years last night.  Please forgive the text.

@ 5:24: pm |Wednesday - June 1, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Due to lies in your exparte motion.  It doesn’t change the truth.  I’ll call you when they are ready.

@ 5:49 pm | Wednesday - June 1, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Cut the shit grant.  I know who you are.  I’m not playing.  I’ll call you when they wake up.

@ 12:56 pm | Wednesday - July 13, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
I can’t be there until after my last appointment in Wilson.  When do you think they will be up?

@ 1:44:18 pm | Wednesday - July 13, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
This is why there are issues.  Can y . . .

@ 1:44:20 pm | Wednesday - July 13, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
. . . ever you like between 4 and 5.  Thank you for your pending response.

@ 2:58 pm| Wednesday - July 13, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
It is not a big deal to you.  I told you.

@ 4:12 pm | Wednesday - July 13, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Okay, I’m leaving the Wilson area now.  I’ll call when I get past the traffic.  Where will you be at in an hour or so?


Sent messages:  From Grant to Laura | No date or time is possible.

Look, it’s not that big a deal.  You’ll see them in two days, so don’t stress out about it.  They are asleep now.  What’s your ETA?

No, brat.  They were fine Sunday.

Grant called up twice.  Said he doesn’t want to talk.

Give me a buzz when they get up.  Yes and no work fine.  You don’t know me or what I wanted @ 3.  Neither do I.  Besides, I’m asking—trusting you—because you are wthem.  I don’t presume to know anything about what goes on there or what they need in your environment, so I’ll continue to be considerate and available when you feel it’s appropriate.  I’m used to being around them a lot more than you are, Laura.  My whole life is them, day in and out.  The park, the mall, Monkey Joe’s; meals, messes, and bath.  That’s the kind of parent I am.  Thank you.

Laura, come on!  It’s after 3.  The business day ends in two hours.  I need to tell my attorney something.  You’re putting me in a real f’d up position here.  Call me asap!

Take a pic for me please.  Email it.  Thanks.  Can you at least give me an idea, like between 7 and 8.  Do you have to work or something?

Get them dressed now.  You’re welcome.

Nap time.  I promised them Joe’s after nap, so I’ll let them sleep as long as possible.

That is exactly where a sick baby should be!!!

Sha took the boys out for a few, so we could get some moving stuff done.  I called you to let you talk with them before they left cause they will probably be gone for a few hours.  Just showing you I’m a man of my word.  What’s up with you?  You’re phone has been off every time I called since yesterday.  Hit me up as soon as you talk to John.  I haven’t said anything to anyone.  @


Sent messages:  From Grant to (Monkey Joe’s) Lauren | No date or time is possible.

Yeah, their mom will be there in an hour.  I told her three.  She is a mess.  I might just drop them off to avoid drama with her.  Getting them dressed now.


Text Messages Extracted from Grant’s Motorola Phone:

@ 6:37 pm | June 15, 2011 | From Laura to Grant
Constant dictator.  Why do you have to act like this?  How does this serve you?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12858916/#/vid12858916

Or watch video:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12858916/#/vid12858916
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Post by Nan11 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:41 pm

I've updated the timeline.  I went in under edit and updated on my original comment, so I'll link that comment below.

Updated Timeline


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Post by Nan11 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:46 pm

Kinston.com | Autopsy findings in Ackerson murder revealed to jury
Decomposition hindered cause of death determination

By Wes Wolfe / Staff Writer | Published: Saturday, September 7, 2013 at 18:12 PM.

RALEIGH — There were questions in search of an answer that doesn’t exist — at least, not on official records.

Only Grant Hayes and his wife Amanda, both charged with the murder of former Kinston resident Laura Ackerson, know exactly how Ackerson died. They both say they collaborated to dispose of her body, but say the other person killed her in July 2011.

Last week, as prosecutors and defense counsel questioned Dr. Nobby Mambo — the deputy chief medical examiner for Galveston County, Texas — testimony revealed what Mambo’s autopsy of Ackerson stated, which was she was murdered by an unknown method.


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Post by Nan11 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:20 am

Here is a picture of Laura and one of her sons that I hadn't seen before.  Look at his little hand, clutching his mother.  It's a beautiful picture, but knowing what happened to Laura makes this seem unbearably sad.

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Post by Nan11 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:18 am

Following are the live stream links for the trial today.  Very Happy
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http://www.wral.com/news/video/12826677/#/vid12826677

ABC
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=9223333

WildAboutTrial
http://wildabouttrial.com/grant-hayes-live-stream.html


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TX for the link share!
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:00 pm

Facebook messages: 'Nasty' custody fight was draining Hayes financially

Posted: 2:12 p.m. today
Updated: 2:18 p.m. today


Raleigh, N.C. — A Raleigh man accused of killing his ex-girlfriend wrote in a Facebook message three months before her death that a "nasty" custody battle between the two over their young sons was draining him of his savings.

"Eight-five grand in legal fees, forensic evaluators, shrinks … all on me of course," Grant Hayes wrote in the March 15, 2011, message to a friend. "The good news is that the courts gave primary custody to me of both boys in a temporary order … The bad news is that I've gone from having the financial security to allow my wife and I to stay home all day to selling jewelry just to keep the lawyers on the case and the lights on."

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Post by Nan11 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:15 pm

Here are today's videos of the trial.  It was a long day of interesting testimony.
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 1)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police officer Kevin Crocker.


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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 2)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Timoth Suggs, a forensic chemist with the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12867181/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 3)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Detective Thomas Ouellette with the Raleigh Police Department.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12867193/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 4)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Detective Zeke Morse with the Raleigh Police Department.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12867527/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 5)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Mark Herbert.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12868261/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 6)

Part 1 of Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police Sgt. Brian Hall.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12868508/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 7)

Part 2 of Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Raleigh police Sgt. Brian Hall.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12868790/
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Grant Hayes trial testimony (Day 7 pt 8)

Sept. 9, 2013, testimony of Shannon Quick, a senior agent with the Raleigh/Wake City-County Bureau of Identification.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/12868791/
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Post by Nan11 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:28 pm

Good summary video for today, 2.41 minutes.

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Post by Nan11 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:34 pm

ABC11 | Detectives went through mounds of trash in Ackerson case
Updated at 06:47 PM today



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Detective Zeke Morse also read jurors a sampling of Hayes' Facebook messages. In a message posted about seven months before Ackerson's death, Hayes started with an expletive about her, telling a friend "I'm surprised you remembered her name. No one else did."

Ten days after Ackerson's death, he wrote to a friend about her disappearance, saying he was being investigated and wondered if the friend knew of a good attorney who would take the case for free.

"If Laura don't show up soon I may be in for the fight of my life and I'm really scared.  Black guy, white girl, custody fight.  WTF.  This whole thing is top story news here - my picture, here pictures, court papers.  It's a night mare.  And what's f***ed up is I don't even know until yesterday how big a deal this was.  Can you say lawyer?" Hayes wrote.


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