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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:10 am

Dr. Baden only one that came and gave how and what
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:10 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Very intelligent jury foreman

Agreed Chickenbutt! Seems they considered everything.

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:11 am

Sorry missed some
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:11 am

tiny smile here....so - the magazines killed her!!
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:13 am

I want her to ask him about what the jury thought about the affair & the shoddy investigation.

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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:13 am

ok, so now it makes sense....smart guy
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:15 am

Pets?
Myocarditis and CMV
Common knowledge pets carry virus....kitty litter carries CMV
Saw pics of animal stuff...did she get some illness from pets. Turtles carry viruses (Salmonella)
Lina kept day planner.....took pet to vet
Lina had 6 doctor visits last year, pros did not brig that out....nutritionist, OBGYN
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Post by back2back19 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:15 am

Okay, that makes some sense. I do find it hilarious that Baldwin was the one who made them wonder by bringing up the pet. LOL

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:16 am

lol....Christy can't make this guy quit talking
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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:16 am

He is certified by court as a mediator...so glad he was someone who could weigh the evidence intelligently
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:17 am

The jury foreman is a mediator for the Courts, that's interesting.

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:17 am

Jury take on def?

Judge excellent control on courtroom..Phenominal job
Milian excellent job
Pros did what they had to do
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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:17 am

Prosecution did not bring case forward as well as Mr. Milian....I knew I liked Alberto...
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Post by back2back19 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:18 am

Wow. This guy is smart.

I also like that he doesn't use the fees/salary against them. He looks at it like this is America, it's how we roll here. Nothing more, nothing less.

I really do think this jury really did a good job. Just by listening to this guy. His answers are reasonable, unlike the Casey jury.

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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:18 am

FINALLY, she is asking my question!

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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:18 am

Anna Howe Affair?
Jury set aside outburst...didn't look at relationship
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Weeziethm on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:19 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Weezie, I don't know the C Vaughn case. Is there a thread on RC for it?

CB, I have not seen a thread on this, but it will be a "doozie"....hope this link works.

http://channahon-minooka.patch.com/articles/christopher-vaughn-murder-trial-finally-slated-to-start
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:19 am

Fara?
Was Fara motive?

Didn't need motive..just how and what
Fara didn't sway us one bit.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:20 am

hmmm - remember to jail phone call - with female saying ""this is big!"...wonder if def. was interested in toxic shock syndrome (tampons).....did they mention how many OBGYN visits??

what is CMV...and I have had 22yrs of litter -
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am

It's the lack of evidence she didn't collect it would seem would be difficult to set aside even if he doesn't admit it.

He has mentioned more than once Detective Anguilo didn't testify.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:22 am

summerthyme wrote:hmmm - remember to jail phone call - with female saying ""this is big!"...wonder if def. was interested in toxic shock syndrome (tampons).....did they mention how many OBGYN visits??

what is CMV...and I have had 22yrs of litter -

summerthyme, good thought, certainly plausible.

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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:25 am

brb
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:27 am

http://www.bing.com/health/article/mayo-MADS00938/Cytomegalovirus-CMV-infection?q=cytomegalovirus+infection&qpvt=cmv


CMV Info
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:28 am

lol...gettin hardware off his leg...making him even ighter than he is now.....says Seth
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:31 am

argggghhhh.....I'm hungry, my water bottle is empty, I fell down

I am starting the bidding for one whiny 5 year old at a nickle ninety eight.....do I hear any bids?
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:32 am

I'll take her...a freebie I owe you!!! =g
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by back2back19 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:34 am

This Judge commentator on IS right now thinks AK probably did it(his gut) but doesn't think the state came even remotely close to proving it and he doesn't know how they brought the case.

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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:34 am

You might want to think twice about taking her. She is at that age when she is a pain in my a$$. Tattletale, whiny, too cute for words, sassy, determined (stubborn). Can't wait for this phase to be over.
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Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:35 am

so you think this stage is temporary?????? are you sure?
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Post by back2back19 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 am

So many interesting facts...

they checked out Lina's cell phone; they checked out her day planner. Very interesting.

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:38 am

nope...hopeful maybe. She is her fathers daughter, thats for sure. I shouldn't have to do this twice! not fair

Her 8 y/o sis is easy, but she went thru this stage too. I think it has to do with the pending divorce, mom moving out, etc. So I try to be patient and cuddle her when she is the least cuddle-able.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:39 am

I think this jury was more thorough that the Pros
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Post by Weeziethm on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:42 am

Chickenbutt wrote:I think this jury was more thorough that the Pros

This jury is a testament to taking their oath and job seriously. I applaud their diligence.
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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:47 am

This jury renews my faith in the system. Unlike the CA pinellas pinheads who couldn't find the evidence to review in the first place and couldn't even find child abuse for Pete's sake, this jury really did a nice thorough job.
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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:49 am

I apologize to the jury for my comment yesterday after the question about pets. My faith in them wavered for a minute. Jury.....I apologize.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by emberl on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:50 am

back2back19 wrote:So many interesting facts...

they checked out Lina's cell phone; they checked out her day planner. Very interesting.



Very interesting indeed.

Those items where NOT evidense in this case.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:50 am

Chickenbutt wrote:You might want to think twice about taking her. She is at that age when she is a pain in my a$$. Tattletale, whiny, too cute for words, sassy, determined (stubborn). Can't wait for this phase to be over.

Drama Queen? LOL!

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:51 am

The judge commenting said they were entered into evidence, just never used.
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Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:51 am

+1 ...then me too
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:52 am

Drama Princess....I am the Queen in this family. They have a long way to go to be Queen...lol
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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:52 am

emberl apparently they were not in court, but they were entered into evidence in the case. We didn't know it either.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:53 am

Chickenbutt wrote:The judge commenting said they were entered into evidence, just never used.

Too CB, someone said it might have been an oversight of the defense to not bring up all the Drs. Lina was seeing.

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:55 am

That shows just how shoddy the Pros case was, if the Def won without using Lina's day planner and cell phone.
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Post by summerthyme on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:57 am

from watching trial - I didn't think any little thing got past A,Milian.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:57 am

Holy cow!
Nana I fell, Can I have a booboo buddy (rice bean bag in freezer for owies)

Hurry up noon!!!!
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:58 am

Lawson Lamar made the Prosecutor's charge the DP in KC's case, it irked Ashton, Lamar has since called Ashton a "HOT HEAD!" Ashton is a HOT MESS!

I wonder if Lamar is going to be so critical of these Prosecutor's in this case.

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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:59 am

It is puzzling why the planner and phone weren't used. Maybe the def saw something that went to the Pros and the Pros saw something that went to the Def....making it hard for either side to use it. I dunno
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Post by tesstruhart on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:59 am

ok, I'm giving in...got to take the stroller for a quick walk, cloudy out so this might be real quick
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Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:00 am

I wish they would have showed the judges face at the reading of the verdict
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2

Post by Chickenbutt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:00 am

Have fun Tess
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