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Pistorius selling house where he shot Steenkamp

By GERALD IMRAY — Mar. 20, 2014 12:36 PM EDT



JOHANNESBURG (AP) — Oscar Pistorius is selling the house where he killed Reeva Steenkamp to raise money for his legal bills, the athlete's lawyer said Thursday.

Pistorius has not returned to the upscale Pretoria villa since the day he shot his girlfriend in a bathroom over a year ago and "cannot contemplate ever returning to live there again," lawyer Brian Webber said.

Pistorius had planned to keep his home "sealed" until after his ongoing murder trial, Webber said, but it is now necessary to sell it to fund his defense because the double amputee's trial will last longer than the initial three-week period that was predicted.

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Post by Freckles on Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:13 pm

Hi, AD!
Thank you for the correction on Reeva being shot thru the elbow and NOT the hand. Tardy in my response.

Double tap: I am presuming this is important because IF OP paused between the shots it would have given him time to have heard the screams from Reeva... And IF OP heard the screams then he would know it was NOT a stranger/home invader in the home. And that would lead to murder of Reeva if OP continued to shot after hearing Reeva's screams. Would it be enough for premeditated?

I was visiting some of the twitter sites and saw some of the telephone evidence. Of interest (perhaps because it supports one of my loosely constructed theories) is the evidence showing OP had searched for cars with free porn.... at that was at 1830  (6:30 PM) of the evening before Reeva was killed. My theory is OP was amorous because of Valentine's Day and Reeva refused him.  He felt totally rejected and killed her. Perhaps, she had told him she was moving on without him? She had a new venture starting with her career and the TV....
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:25 pm

Freckles wrote:Hi, AD!
Thank you for the correction on Reeva being shot thru the elbow and NOT the hand. Tardy in my response.

Double tap: I am presuming this is important because IF OP paused between the shots it would have given him time to have heard the screams from Reeva... And IF OP heard the screams then he would know it was NOT a stranger/home invader in the home. And that would lead to murder of Reeva if OP continued to shot after hearing Reeva's screams. Would it be enough for premeditated?

I was visiting some of the twitter sites and saw some of the telephone evidence. Of interest (perhaps because it supports one of my loosely constructed theories) is the evidence showing OP had searched for cars with free porn.... at that was at 1830  (6:30 PM) of the evening before Reeva was killed. My theory is OP was amorous because of Valentine's Day and Reeva refused him.  He felt totally rejected and killed her. Perhaps, she had told him she was moving on without him? She had a new venture starting with her career and the TV....

Hi Freckles!

You are correct, Reeva was shot through her left hand, that's what the Pathologist who perform the autopsy told the court when he testified. He also called the shot through the hand a defensive wound, he said that she was trying to shield her head when a bullet went through the hand before penetrating her skull. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

I believe in the prosecutor's contention that there was an argument before he fired the shots.

"A witness has told the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius that she heard "loud voices" arguing followed by "shots or explosions" the night Reeva Steenkamp was killed.

Estelle van der Merwe, who lived just under 100 metres from Pistorius' Pretoria house, said she was woken just before 2am on St Valentine's Day by the row, which went on for around an hour before she heard shots fired."
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:54 pm

OSCAR PISTORIOUS MURDER TRIAL - LIVE STREAM

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The Telegraph - Watch live: Oscar Pistorius murder trial

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10689058/Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial-March-11-as-it-happened.html


The Guardian - Oscar Pistorius trial - live stream

Full coverage of the trial of South African athlete for murder of girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, in Pretoria last year

http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2014/mar/03/reeva-steenkamp-oscar-pistorius-trial-live-stream


Mediaite - Oscar Pistorius Trial LIVE VIDEO

http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-live-here-oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-day-7/


WPTV West Palm Beach - Live video from the Oscar Pistorius murder trial

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eNCA - Oscar Pistorius Trial LIVE

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Oscar Pistorius murder trial extended

South Africa |  Sunday 23 March 2014 - 12:18pm

JOHANNESBURG - The murder trial of paralympian Oscar Pistorius at the High Court in Pretoria has been extended until mid-May, the office of the chief justice said on Sunday.

"The Oscar Pistorius trial continues... on Monday 24 March to Friday 4 April," said spokeswoman Lulama Luti in a statement.

She said the court would then be in recess until April 11.

"After the recess, the trial will resume on Monday 14 April until Friday 16 May."

Previously, the trial was scheduled to continue until April 4. It was initially set down from March 3 to 20.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:52 pm

Expert clarifies ‘premeditated murder’

September 5 2013 at 09:36am
By NOELENE BARBEAU



Franaaz Khan

When the State said they intended proving “premeditated murder” during Oscar Pistorius’s bail application, some people questioned if such a charge existed in South Africa.

The argument was that for a killing to be murder, it must have an element of premeditation in any case.

The Daily News approached a legal expert to get some clarity on the difference between dolus (intent) and premeditation.

Franaaz Khan, an attorney and a criminal law and commercial law lecturer at the University of KwaZulu-Natal, said that while said South African law does not recognise a charge called “premeditated murder”, the fact that it was premeditated can be used in court as an argument in aggravation of sentence.

“Intention can be formed at the instant of committing the crime and does not imply or necessitate any degree of forethought or planning on the part of the accused.

“Our courts have suggested that one would have to examine all the circumstances surrounding any particular murder, including not least the accused’s state of mind.

“This will allow one to arrive at a conclusion as to whether a particular murder is planned or premeditated,” said Khan.

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Oscar Pistorius Could Take the Stand This Week

PRETORIA, South Africa March 23, 2014

By LIEZL THOM via GOOD MORNING AMERICA



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The prosecution of Oscar Pistorius is expected to conclude shortly after court resumes Monday, clearing the way for the star witness -- Pistorius -- to take the stand.

Pistorius' lawyer Barry Roux has made it clear that the legless paralympian would testify, and he has indicated that Pistorius could very well be his lead-off witness and that Pistorius' testimony would form the basis the of the defense's approach.

The trial, which is expected to last until mid May, has been in recess since Wednesday when prosecutor Gerrie Nel told the judge he wanted time to prepare the end of his case.

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Nel is trying to prove that Pistorius knew who was behind the locked door and that he fired four shots during a rage fueled argument with Steenkamp.

Roux's cross examination of prosecution witnesses gives some indication of how the defense will attack the evidence presented over the last three weeks.

One potential weakness in the state's case is the doubt Roux has tried to cast on the evidence heard so far about the alleged argument between Pistorius and Steenkamp.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:06 am

Pistorius trial: Cellphones to be examined



The last web page viewed on Oscar Pistorius's iPad before he shot and killed Reeva Steenkamp is shown in the High Court in Pretoria, 19 March 2014.

Barry Bateman | 14 minutes ago

PRETORIA - The contents of Oscar Pistorius's phones including the device taken to the United States (US) are expected to be revealed in court this week.

The prosecution team told the court last week that it intended calling four witnesses this week before closing its case.

~Snipped~

High on the list of expert witnesses, the state is expected to call Hawks cellphone analyst, Captain Francois Moller.

Moller is believed to have carefully studied all the messages retrieved from the three phones found at the scene.

He was also one of the officers who went to the US to ask Apple to help retrieve data from one of Pistorius’s iPhones.

The state may also call former investigating officer Hilton Botha or current investigator Mike van Aardt.

Among the lay witnesses expected, who could help the state, is Clarice Stander, daughter of the estate’s manager.

She was among the first people to arrive on the scene and collected towels from an upstairs cupboard to help stop Steenkamp’s bleeding.

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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:01 am

The prosecution had over 100 witnesses to call; they have called @ 20.
I have to wonder if there are more they will call this week?

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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:09 am

From above link:
http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/opinion/expert-clarifies-premeditated-murder-1.1573253#.UzAtIs4zKSq


" Mdunge gave the example of a person who had stabbed someone more than 20 times.

“If it wasn’t premeditated, the person would have stopped after stabbing the person the first time,” he said.


The State intends arguing that the murder was premeditated, which could increase his sentence should he be found guilty, he said. "

So. Does this relate back to the "double tap" theory prosecution discussed earlier?
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:12 am

OSCAR PISTORIUS MURDER TRIAL - DAY 14



Oscar Pistorius Trial: 24 Monday 2014, Session 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AzYslyjzmY&list=TL6tv2Y8BjufdCH_l_8oTYNatEpaHlC8tg




Oscar Pistorius Trial: 24 Monday 2014, Session 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6vYsLYLJw&list=TLmhIwkw_x2I-6oiULe9xkUO-xNsgQPF7d




Oscar Pistorius Trial: 24 Monday 2014, Session 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYB_uFKE9I&list=UU8yH-uI81UUtEMDsowQyx1g
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Stipp's testimony contradicts Oscar's statement: Patricia Versagie reports

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Oscar Trial: witness testimony unshakeable

South Africa | Monday 24 March 2014 - 1:34pm



Paralympian Oscar Pistorius before the start of court proceedings of his murder trial on Monday, 24 March 2014 at the high court in Pretoria. Pistorius is accused of the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp whom he shot through a bathroom door. Picture: Chris Collingridge/TheStar/Pool

PRETORIA - A woman screamed repeatedly in terror, there were lights shining from the toilet window at the time, and her cries died out with the last gunshot heard.

These were among the elements of evidence by witness Anette Stipp, which the defence has found to be unshakeable.

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Oscar Pistorius trial: Cell phone texts show tensions

AP 10:12 a.m. EDT March 24, 2014

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) — Phone messages between Oscar Pistorius and the girlfriend he shot dead indicate that she was sometimes afraid of him.

The couple had also argued about what she alleged was the athlete's short temper and jealousy, police Capt. Francois Moller testified Monday, citing text messages he extracted from cell phones.

Moller says that about 90 percent of the messages he downloaded were what he called normal and "loving" exchanges. But there were exceptions that he printed out for the court in Pistorius' murder trial.

In another message, Pistorius told Steenkamp that his friends will take the blame for a shooting incident that occurred a month before Steenkamp was killed.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:39 am

"However, text messages between the pair in the weeks leading up to the shooting painted a picture of a volatile, stormy relationship, with Ms Steenkamp accusing Pistorius of jealousy and outbursts of anger.

"I'm scared of you sometimes and how you snap at me and of how you will react to me," one message sent by Ms Steenkamp on January 27, 2013 said. It was read out in court by police expert Francois Moller on Day 14 of the trial.

"We are living in a double standard relationship. Every five seconds I hear about how you dated another chick. You really have dated a lot of people yet you get upset if I mention one funny story with a long-term boyfriend," it continued."

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Oscar Pistorius trial: Reeva Steenkamp said she was 'scared sometimes' as Whatsapp messages shown in court

MARIA TADEO  |  Monday 24 March 2014

Text messages between Oscar Pistorius and girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp revealed in court painted a picture of a jealous man who "snapped" at her and often accused the model of flirting with other men, his murder trial heard.

In a Whatsapp conversation, Ms Steenkamp wrote: "I'm scared of you sometimes and how you snap at me."

The model also wrote she felt "picked on" and "attacked" by the one person she "deserved protection from"- referring to the athlete- and was upset by his jealous tantrums.

~Snipped~

In a separate incident, the athlete accused her of chatting to a man, "touching his arm" and ignoring him. Pistorius sobbed in court as the messages were read out.



Emotional text message from Reeva Steenkmap to Pistorius where the model insists she wants to make him proud and happy but she was being "attacked" by the person who should be protecting her

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"Earlier, a neighbour of Pistorius told Pretoria's High Court she heard the "terrified" screams of a woman at around 3am on Valentine's Day last year.

Anette Stipp told the court: "The screaming at that stage just continued. There was definitely a female screaming for quite a period. You could definitely hear two different voices.

"I said to my husband it sounds like a family murder. Otherwise why would a woman scream like that? She sounds terrified."

She then heard a second set of gun shots, and the screaming stopped.

Mrs Stipp also told the court she saw the lights were on in the bathroom where the model was shot from her balcony in the gated Silver Woods estate.

This appears contradicts the athlete's version of events, claiming the couple went to bed at around 10pm and the room was completely dark, and matches the testimony of previous witnesses who also heard screaming, including her husband."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/oscar-pistorius-trial-reeva-steenkamp-said-she-was-scared-sometimes-as-whatsapp-messages-shown-in-court-9212563.html
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"Steenkamp wrote: 'I regard myself as a lady and I didn't feel like one tonight after the way u treated me when we left. I am trying my best to make u happy and I feel as tho u sometimes never are no matter the effort I put in. I can’t be attacked by outsider for dating u and be attacked by you the person I deserve protection from.'

Pistorius wrote in a message: 'I want to talk to you. I want to sort this out. I don’t want to have anything less than amazing for you and I’m sorry for the things I saw without thinking and for taking offense to some of your actions.’

He said that his illness and sickness was not ‘an excuse.’

‘I was upset you that you just left me after we got food to go talk to a guy and I was standing right behind you watching you touch his arm and ignore me and when I spoke up you introduced me which you could’ve done but when I left you just kept on chatting to him when clearly I was upset.'

In another message, Pistorius told Steenkamp that his friends will take the blame for a shooting incident that occurred a month before Steenkamp was killed."

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:19 am

Oscar, Reeva messages read in court

24 March 2014 at 16:04 by Thrishni Subramoney

~Snipped~

Reeva Steenkamp to Oscar Pistorius, 08 February 2013, 00:09:

"I like to believe that I made you proud when I attend these kind of functions with you. I present myself well and can converse with others while you are off busy chatting to fans and friends. I also knew people there tonight, and whilst you were having one or two pictures taken, I was also saying goodbye to people in my industry and people wanted a photo with me. I was just being cordial by saying goodbye while you were busy.

"I completely understood your desperation to leave, and thought I would be helping you by getting to the Exit before you because I couldn't rush on the heels I was wearing. I thought it would make a difference in us getting out, without you being harassed even more. I didn't think you would criticize me for doing that, especially not so loudly so that others could hear.

"I might joke around and be all tomboy-ish at times, but I regard myself as a lady and I didn't feel like one tonight, after the way you treated me when we left. I'm a person too. And I appreciate that you invited me out tonight and I realise that you get harassed, but I am trying my best to make you happy and I feel as though you sometimes never are, no matter the effort I put in.

"I can't be attacked by outsiders for dating you and be attacked by you, the one person I deserve protection from."


Read more messages here:

http://www.ecr.co.za/post/oscar-reeva-messages-read-in-court/
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:40 am

Debora Patta ‏@Debora_Patta  · 2h  
#OscarTrial Reeva also said in one whatsapp message which in hindsight is ironic "You are the one person I deserve protection from"

Debora Patta ‏@Debora_Patta  · 2h  
#OscarTrial Reeva: I can't be attacked by people from outside for dating you and be attacked by you

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:52 am

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman  · 2h  
#OscarPistorius Reeva: “I get snapped at and told my accent and voice is annoying… stop chewing gum…" BB

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman  · 2h  
#OscarPistorius Reeva: “… you throw tantrums in front of people…. “ BB

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman  · 2h  
#OscarPistorius “I was not flirting with anyone, I feel sick that you suggested that and made a scene at the table and made us leave early..." BB

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:13 pm

Oscar Pistorius murder trial: live

By  Josie Ensor, and Aislinn Laing in Pretoria
2:35PM GMT 24 Mar 2014


14.27 Here are some of the messages sent by Reeva to Pistorius around 4pm on January, 27 2013.

~Snipped~

"I have been upset by you for 2 days now. I'm so upset I left Darren's party early. SO upset. I can't get that day back. I'm scared of u sometimes and how u snap at me and of how u will react to me. You make me happy 90% of the time and I think we are amazing together but I am not some other bitch you may know trying to kill your vibe. I am the girl who let go with u even when I was scared out of my mind to, I'm the girl who fell in love with u and wanted to tell u this weekend.

But I'm also the girl that gets side stepped when you are in a shit mood. When I feel you think u have me so why try anymore. I get snapped at and told my accents and voices are annoying. I touch your neck to show u I care you tell me to stop. Stop chewing gum. Do this don't do that. You don't want to here stuff cut me off. Your endorsements your reputation your impression of something innocent blown out of proportion and fucked up a special day to me. I' sorry if you truly felt I was hitting on my friend Sams husband and I'm sorry that u think that little of me.

From the outside I think it looks like we are a struggle and maybe that's what we are. I just want to love and be loved. Be happy and make someone SO happy. Maybe we can't do that for each other. Cos right now I know u aren't happy and I am certainly very unhappy and sad."

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Stipp: After initial shots "it was continuous screaming. In my recollection I'm absolutely 100% convinced it was a woman." #Pistorius

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andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH  · 3h  
R: i didn't think you'd criticise me so loudly. i joke around, but regard myself as a lady and didn't feel like one tonight. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH  · 3h  
#OscarPistorius: i had a mad headache and should have just spoken to you softly…

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH  · 3h  
#OscarPistorius i know u don't like it when i drive fast… sorry i wanted to go but i was hungry and upset.

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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:58 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Oscar Pistorius trial: Cell phone texts show tensions

AP 10:12 a.m. EDT March 24, 2014

------ abbreviated for space====

In another message, Pistorius told Steenkamp that his friends will take the blame for a shooting incident that occurred a month before Steenkamp was killed.

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I was NOT aware that "accidental" shooting took place so close to the killing of Reeva. Shocked 
I presume this reference was the restaurant shoot fired?
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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:21 pm

From twitter:
https://twitter.com/BBCAndrewH




andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6h
Moller is sworn in. #OscarPistorius looks on and takes notes.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6h
Ok we're back. Mrs Stipp has just finished giving evidence. Next up is Francois Moller - cell phone expert. #OscarPistorius


andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
In Afrikaans, witness used 2 different words to describe bangs - "loud" and "thuds" #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Witness says she doesn't know. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Oldwadge resumes - and he's back on the "lapse of time" between shots, and first phone call to security. #OscarPistorius


andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
So some more clues today about the sound tests done by #OscarPistorius defence. Male and female voices used.

Retweeted by andrew harding
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan 7h
Oldwadge confirms that 1st sound test conducted by defence involved male and female. Stipp couldn't differentiate. @eNCAnews

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Witness says she may have been distracted by talking to husband, so didn't hear "fourth" shot. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Six sounds, four shots… somewhere something is not right, says Oldwadge. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Oldwadge asks if credible that second sounds were cricket bat… Witness says strange that were in such rapid succession.
****** JMO: Excellent point by witness. It would have taken time to drop the gun and grab another object. Besides which what would a cricket bat being doing in the bathroom?


andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Stipp says the shots were "in rapid succession." All six "sounded exactly the same," she says. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
Oldwadge asks witness to make "reasonable concession" that toilet light wasn't on. She sticks to her story. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 7h
#OscarPistorius will, Oldwage suggests, say his toilet light wasn't working.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Oldwadge is reading Stipp's written evidence out to court in Afrikaans, then translating it. Looking for contradictions etc

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Witness admits her signed statement incorrect in 1 point - she didn't see someone walking past #OscarPistorius bathroom.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Last screams ended with last (of 6 heard by witness) shot.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Male screaming "was in between… short" #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Witness confirms she heard male voice "on top" of female voice, prior to second "gunshots." #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Defence argument is… if you couldn't hear what voices were saying, how could you be sure one was female and the other male? #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Not just the pitch - the whole voice was definitely female, says Stipp. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
I'm absolutely sure it was… screaming… from a female. High pitched - says witness. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
We're back, with Oldwadge focusing on the screams heard by neighbour Stipp. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
Oldwadge is trying to get Stipp to confirm her husband's evidence that #OscarPistorius bathroom light was brighter than toilet.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 8h
"I've lost you, and we'll try again," says Oldwadge. I'm almost expecting the school bell to ring. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 9h
Oldwadge asks Stipp to acknowledge "a little bit of doubt" in recollections. She politely declines. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 9h
Oldwadge now questioning whether Stipp has clear memory of that night. "Do you remember what you just said?" #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 9h
"You will agree with me" seems to be Oldwadge's current favourite phrase. Delivered with Dalek-like conviction. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 9h
Digression over. Oldwadge is asking about the screams. Witness says she heard 2 voices "at the same time." Blow to #OscarPistorius defence.
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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:36 pm

CELL PHONE WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE
From twitter:
https://twitter.com/BBCAndrewH


andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
And with that, the court adjourns for the day. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
90 percent of messages were "loving conversations" says witness. But not those the court has just heard. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
R: i didn't think you'd criticise me so loudly. i joke around, but regard myself as a lady and didn't feel like one tonight. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
#OscarPistorius: i had a mad headache and should have just spoken to you softly…

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
#OscarPistorius i know u don't like it when i drive fast… sorry i wanted to go but i was hungry and upset.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
#OscarPistorius i'm sorry for things i say without thinking and for taking offence to some of your actions….

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Reeva's message paints picture of jealous, possessive #OscarPistorius prone to anger.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
#OscarPistorius replies - please let me know when i can call you.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Reeva: you make me happy 90 percent of the time… but i'm not some other bitch… #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Reeva: I'm scared of you sometimes and how you react to me.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Angel and Baba… the couple's names for each other. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Reeva message: i wasn't a stripper or a ho. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Reeva: sorry if it upset you. it wasn't my intention. (regarding smoking of marijuana, it seems). #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
19th Jan, 2013, 15.46… message, Reeva: i won't always think before i say something, just appreciate that i'm not a liar. I know, replies OP

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
So Reeva and Pistorius seemingly agreeing to stick to cover story about restaurant incident. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h

Message: "Angel, please don't say a thing to anyone. Darren told everyone it was his fault…" presumably in reference to restaurant gunshot.


andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
"There's no way i can tamper" with the information on iPhones, says expert witness. #OscarPistorius

More tech talk… but the court is on tenterhooks. What will iPhone messages reveal? #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Moller - relevant information... communications between accused and deceased. About 10 pages worth… #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Moller also extracted email message information. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Certain messages "found to be applicable to this case" says Capt Moller…. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Moller - we read through all the messages (on phone). 2731 in all.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Witness also recovered deleted data from #OscarPistorius iPhones.


2688 pages of information produced by delving into the phones. Witness explains that he won't be reading it all to court.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
Moller is explaining how he got data out of the phones.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 5h
2 Blackberries last in use in late 2012, 2 to 3 months prior to incident, says Moller. #OscarPistorius

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6h
So what will these phones reveal? State looking to show evidence of an argument between #OscarPistorius and Reeva Steenkamp that night.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6h
Moller explaining how he went into #OscarPistorius phone and looked at last dialled numbers to establish which was Reeva's phone.

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6h
Nel - you received four cell phones (2 iPhones, 2 Blackberries) and 2 iPads. Yes, says Moller, plus macbook computer. #OscarPistorius
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Post by Freckles on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:48 pm

From above link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10707259/Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial-March-24-as-it-happened.html

I feel this is important to share as it is presented.
There is more.
This is @ two weeks before she is murdered.
With all the difficulties Reeva outlines, is there anyway this couple could change and heal in Two weeks time? I don't think so.

" ...
14.27 Here are some of the messages sent by Reeva to Pistorius around 4pm on January, 27 2013.

I'm not 100% sure why I'm sitting down to type you a message first. But perhaps it says a lot about what's going on here. Today was one of my best friends engagements and I wanted to stay longer I was enjoying myself but its over now. You have picked on me incessantly since you got back from CT and I understand that you are sick but it's nasty.

Yesterday wasn't nice for either of us but we managed to pull thro and communicate well enough to show our care for each other is greater than the drama that attacked us. I was not flirting with anyone today. I feel sick that u suggested that and that u made a scene at the table and made us leave early. I'm terribly disappointed in how the day ended and how u left me. We are living in a double standard relationship where u can be mad about how I deal with stuff when u are very quick to act cold and offish when you're unhappy.

Every 5 seconds I hear how u dated another chick you really have dated a lot of people yet you get upset if I ONE funny story with a long term boyfriend. I do everything to make u happy and to not say anything to rock the boat with u. You do everything to throw tantrums in front of people.

I have been upset by you for 2 days now. I'm so upset I left Darren's party early. SO upset. I can't get that day back. I'm scared of u sometimes and how u snap at me and of how u will react to me. You make me happy 90% of the time and I think we are amazing together but I am not some other bitch you may know trying to kill your vibe. I am the girl who let go with u even when I was scared out of my mind to, I'm the girl who fell in love with u and wanted to tell u this weekend.

But I'm also the girl that gets side stepped when you are in a shit mood. When I feel you think u have me so why try anymore. I get snapped at and told my accents and voices are annoying. I touch your neck to show u I care you tell me to stop. Stop chewing gum. Do this don't do that. You don't want to here stuff cut me off. Your endorsements your reputation your impression of something innocent blown out of proportion and fucked up a special day to me. I' sorry if you truly felt I was hitting on my friend Sams husband and I'm sorry that u think that little of me.

From the outside I think it looks like we are a struggle and maybe that's what we are. I just want to love and be loved. Be happy and make someone SO happy. Maybe we can't do that for each other. Cos right now I know u aren't happy and I am certainly very unhappy and sad. ...."
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Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:50 pm

Today: Day 15

Oscar Pistorius 15
Captain Francois Moller, technology expert, on cross exam. Defense is showing that out of 1,700 messages there were four messages that related to arguments between Oscar & Reeva.



Part 2:

Published on Mar 25, 2014
Oscar Pistorius Day 15
Court in recess until Friday 3/28. The defense is expected to call Oscar Pistorius to the stand after its case opens on Friday.

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The state in the Oscar Pistorius murder trial has wrapped up its case

Published on Mar 25, 2014  
The defence today concluded its cross examination of cellphone expert Francois Moller. Moller also told the court of Pistorius's calls hours before he killed Steenkamp. The calls Pistorius made shortly after the shooting then came under scrutiny. Chriselda Lewis reports from Pretoria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERlFENcTkgs&list=UU8yH-uI81UUtEMDsowQyx1g
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:12 pm

Oscar Pistorius Trial Day 15: Unclear whether athlete takes stand when trial resumes Friday

By Nastasya Tay
1 hour ago  
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PRETORIA, South Africa – As the prosecution in Oscar Pistorius' murder trial rested its case Tuesday, a member of the star athlete's family told journalists from the front row of the public gallery, "He's ready" to take the stand.

Pistorius appeared resigned but resolute, murmuring as he left court, "It's a tough time. We've got a lot of stuff ahead of us."

The Paralympian, accused of premeditated murder of his model girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's Day 2013, is expected to testify Friday. It is respected practice in the South African legal system for the accused to give evidence before any other defense witnesses are called.

~Snipped~

But when asked if the athlete would be on the stand before the end of the week, his legal team remained cagey. "We'll see about that," defense lawyer Kenny Oldwadge said.

"I don't think we've got a choice, it's a question of when," Pistorius' advising attorney, Brian Webber, said of the likelihood of his client's testimony. South Africa's constitution allows Pistorius to refrain from testifying in his own defense.

Read more:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oscar-pistorius-trial-day-15--unclear-whether-blade-runner-will-take-stand-friday-170659635.html

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:18 pm

RELATED ARTICLE:

Oscar’s dark side

February 15 2013 at 02:27pm
By ANGELIQUE SERRAO


Johannesburg - Oscar Pistorius, the man known as the Blade Runner, is certainly no stranger to controversy.

In September 2009, Pistorius spent 17 hours in jail after being charged with common assault.

A woman, Cassidy Taylor-Memmory, who was a student at the University of Pretoria at the time, alleged that Pistorius had slammed a door on her after they had a fight at a party at his house.

The Director of Public Prosecutions decided not to pursue the matter, saying they did not believe Pistorius had any intention to assault Taylor-Memmory.

Soon afterwards, Pistorius instituted a R2.2 million damages claim against her, saying she had deliberately given the police false information.

Pistorius also instituted a R6.5m lawsuit against Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa for unlawful arrest.

Taylor-Memmory told the police he had aggressively slammed a wooden door, causing it to break, and a piece of wood hit her leg.

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http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/oscar-s-dark-side-1.1471252#.UzHVpiAo7IU
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:27 pm

RELATED ARTICLE:

A streak of pugnacity simmered under Oscar Pistorius's placid exterior; would you believe his idol is Mike Tyson?

It was Samantha Taylor, a Cape Town marketing student and Oscar Pistorius’s girlfriend of 18 months, who made the first public suggestion this supposed paragon of virtue was not quite how he appeared.

By  Oliver Brown, and Gareth A Davies
6:15AM GMT 15 Feb 2013


“Oscar is certainly not what people think he is,” she said, intimating that the South African’s charming urbanity was a highly-polished veneer.

Pistorius’s impeccable politesse, allied to his athletic fortitude, made him a marketing dream. He was the cherubic emblem of disability sport.

But signs emerged at the Paralympics, once breathless talk of the transcendence of his Olympic baptism had subsided, that the halo was beginning to slip.

Overtaken in the last strides by Brazil’s Alan Oliveira in a dramatic final of the T43/44 200 metres, Pistorius could not conceal his chagrin, accusing his rival of racing with longer artificial legs. “We’re not running a fair race here,” he claimed. “I don’t believe you can come from eight metres behind to win.” He later apologised for his comments.

The remarks left him dangerously exposed to charges of hypocrisy. For years he had been railing against critics who claimed that his prostheses invested him with an unfair advantage, and now here he was impugning the integrity of a fellow athlete on the same issue. The apparent double standard also smacked of a worrying arrogance.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:39 pm

Oscar Pistorius: CCTV footage shows couple kissing

CCTV footage shows Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp kissing in a shop days after exchanging angry text messages

2:13PM GMT 25 Mar 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10721639/Oscar-Pistorius-CCTV-footage-shows-couple-kissing.html
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:49 pm

Alex Crawford ‏@AlexCrawfordSky  · 9h  
#OscarPistorius Roux is working v hard at painting this picture of South Africa's Romeo and Juliet, the star-crossed lovers in a whatsap age

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Annika Larsen ‏@AnnikaLarsen1 · 13m
Watching Reeva on CCTV makes me squirm. We have no way of knowing what lies ahead for us. And no say either. #OscarPistorius

https://twitter.com/AnnikaLarsen1



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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:01 pm



Video: Steenkamp's Whatsapp messages to Pistorius analysed.

More ...

http://ewn.co.za/2014/03/25/Oscar-Pistorius-trial-Cellphones-analysed?utm
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:11 pm

CRIME SCENE PHOTOS

Pistorius Trial Evidence Revealed

See the evidence compiled in the murder trial against Oscar Pistorius who killed his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. (Editor's note: Graphic images)

Photo Gallery:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pistorius-trial/pistorius-trial-evidence-revealed-n61796
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Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:41 pm

Interesting link.
Says it is a live blog.
Has courtroom pics, info, and twitter postings....
Just found it has an audio stream as well.
You can play the two parts from today.
Archived.

http://ewn.co.za/Features/oscarpistorius/live-blog
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Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:43 pm

Thanks AD! Looking at the pics now.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:58 pm

Reeva Steenkamp sent selfie kiss to Oscar Pistorius telling him “this is going to be a good year”

Mar 25, 2014 19:06  
By Lucy Thornton


Loving Reeva Steenkamp blew a kiss to Oscar Pistorius in a selfie then told him “this is going to be a good year”.

The 29-year-old model sent him the WhatsApp message on January 10th, 2013 - just over a month later she was dead.

The love-struck law graduate told him: “I’m here next to u” and he replied: “its just a lot of pressure..I know, thanks baba...Xx means alot.”

Then nine days later she sent him another message thanking him with the kiss picture, while wearing a hoody he had given her as a present.

He asks here “you like it?” and she says “I love it...so warm...Thank u.”



martinbrunt‏ @skymartinbrunt ·
#Pistorius Witness describes kiss-blowing pic Reeva sent OP a month before shooting. pic.twitter.com/X9mA2lJ1Ww

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http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-reeva-3284908
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:04 pm

Freckles wrote:Thanks AD!  Looking at the pics now.

You are welcome, Freckles.

Those pictures are horrifying. The blood spatter on the cricket bat is very questionable, in my opinion.

Thank you for the updates!
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Post by justanopinion on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:57 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:
Freckles wrote:Thanks AD!  Looking at the pics now.

You are welcome, Freckles.

Those pictures are horrifying. The blood spatter on the cricket bat is very questionable, in my opinion.

Thank you for the updates!


Any opinions on how the trial is going… the cricket bat is suspicious!
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:23 pm

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Carl Pistorius, Oscar's Brother, Facing Culpable Homicide Charge, Family Lawyer Says

AP  |  By RAF CASERT  Posted: 02/24/2013 6:59 am EST  |  Updated: 02/25/2013 2:21 pm EST

JOHANNESBURG -- The murder case involving Olympic star Oscar Pistorius took another unexpected turn Sunday with the news that his older brother, Carl, is himself facing charges for the death of a woman in a traffic accident.

Carl Pistorius faces a charge of unlawful, negligent killing for a 2008 road death, `'in which a woman motorcyclist sadly lost her life," Kenneth Oldwage, the Pistorius family lawyer said on Sunday. The accident happened in Vanderbijlpark, south of Johannesburg. The charge of `'culpable homicide" was dropped and then reinstated and will be challenged in court, the lawyer told The Associated Press.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/24/carl-pistorius-oscars-brother-homicide_n_2752829.html

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Bike speed features in Pistorius crash

2013-03-27 22:15



Carl Pistorius (Picture: Sapa)

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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Bike-speed-features-in-Pistorius-crash-20130327

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Carl Pistorius acquitted

2013-05-21 13:33



Carl Pistorius - the brother of murder-accused paralympian Oscar Pistorius - has been acquitted on a charge of culpable homicide. See pictures from court

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:46 pm

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Alessandra_Deux wrote:Oscar Pistorius trial: Cell phone texts show tensions

AP 10:12 a.m. EDT March 24, 2014

------ abbreviated for space====

In another message, Pistorius told Steenkamp that his friends will take the blame for a shooting incident that occurred a month before Steenkamp was killed.

Read more:

http://news.pinoar.com/oscar-pistorius-trial-cell-phone-texts-show-tensions-usa-today/
I was NOT aware that "accidental" shooting took place so close to the killing of Reeva. Shocked 
I presume this reference was the restaurant shoot fired?

Yes, it was.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:08 pm

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You are welcome, Freckles.

Those pictures are horrifying. The blood spatter on the cricket bat is very questionable, in my opinion.

Thank you for the updates!


Any opinions on how the trial is going… the cricket bat is suspicious!

Hi JAO!

Laurie James, a crime analyst, seems to believe that the prosecution has a strong case.

The following is the link to the video where she speaks with Chriselda Lewis from SABC News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERlFENcTkgs&list=UU8yH-uI81UUtEMDsowQyx1g
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Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:11 pm

Wow. I did not know the brother, Carl, had been brought up on homicide charges Feb 2013 for a 2008 death of a woman. Seems the whole family is suffering from that new Texas illness, "affluence."
How long had the two lived together?


From link given above:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/24/carl-pistorius-oscars-brother-homicide_n_2752829.html

Posted: 02/24/2013 6:59 am

" ... Others have described him as a reckless risk taker who has been in trouble before, such as a boating accident in 2009 which put him into a hospital intensive care unit.

But in a report on Sunday, a South African man who said Steenkamp had stayed at his home since September, described Pistorius as moody and impatient. Cecil Myers, whose daughter was close friends with Steenkamp, said in an interview in the City Press newspaper, that Pistorius will have the killing of Steenkamp on his conscience. "I hope he gets a long sentence. Gets what he deserves," said Myers.

Pistorius appeared "very nice and charming to us when they started dating," said Myers. Myers said Pistorius initially used to come into the house but later just dropped Steenkamp off and picked her up when they began to date steadily, and he described the change as a lack of respect.

Myers recalled their first date and told the newspaper: "After that he wouldn't leave her alone. He kept pestering her, phoning and phoning and phoning her."

According to Myers, Steenkamp "told me he pushed her a bit into a corner. She felt caged in....."
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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:20 pm

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Freckles wrote:Thanks AD!  Looking at the pics now.

You are welcome, Freckles.

Those pictures are horrifying. The blood spatter on the cricket bat is very questionable, in my opinion.

Thank you for the updates!

I was commenting to a friend (who is half following the case) I found the bloody bat highly questionable.
Wasn't there blood spray in the bedroom above the bed? Blood spots on carpet in bedroom? And WHERE was his bloody shirt since he reportedly carried her down the stairs? Absolutely amazing how he did not track any blood about even as he lifted her, isn't it?

I wonder if he had hit her in the nose with the bat and she fled to the bathroom; he realized he had gone to far as she had camera time coming up so he grabbed his gun and went after her to probably threaten her, convince her to tell some lie, etc.. However, locked in the cubicle, I would imagine she was terrified and held her ground.

Back to the bloody bat. IMO, he concocted some story about using it it to batter the door.
I am not buying it. There is blood spray as well as the blood drops.
Do we have an autopsy report?
IMO, He did a lot to try to set a scene to justify his killing her, to distract (stolen watches anyone? blood on jewelry case?) and then the multiple phone calls. Keep in mind, this is the same person who just a month earlier fired off a round in a restaurant and asked his friend to take the blame for it!!!
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Post by Freckles on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:23 pm

This link is from above,
It has more of a detailed outline of the court proceedings today.
Also, some of the other messages the two shared are included here:

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/Live/LIVE-UPDATES-Oscar-Pistorius-trial-day-15-20140325
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:24 pm



Who was Reeva Steenkamp?

CNN

Published on Feb 15, 2013  
CNN's Errol Barnett tells us about South African model Reeva Steenkamp, who was killed in a shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xyjHFTTMs

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Oscar Pistorius Doc - Reeva Profile

CNN

Published on Jun 6, 2013
 
Excerpt of Anderson Cooper's Special Report, Oscar Pistorius: Brutal Murder or Grave Mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOewVBqtmD8


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