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Oscar Betrayus....  awe 
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:47 am

Oscar trial drawing close to its dramatic conclusion

South Africa | Thursday 31 July 2014 - 5:50am

(Video: 30 July 2014 - eNCA's Karyn Maughan explains the purpose of a closing argument. Oscar Pistorius's murder trial is coming to an end after more than four months at the North Gauteng High Court. eNCA)

JOHANNESBURG - After four and a half months, the Oscar Pistorius murder trial is approaching its conclusion.

The State has filed its final arguments in the North Gauteng High Court and final arguments from the state and defence will be heard on the 7th and 8th of August.

The paralympian is on trial for shooting dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine’s Day last year.

“Well essentially what happens is that when every witness testifies in this case, there’s a running record. So all that testimony is transcribed into these very voluminous documents," said eNCA senior reporter Karyn Maughan.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:19 pm



Oscar Pistorius's Silver Woods home sold for R4.5-million
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Thursday 31 July 2014 - 8:20pm


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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:02 pm

According to media reports, Oscar Pistorius sold the house where he killed Reeva over two months ago:


Oscar Pistorius sells house where he killed girlfriend

Nick Zaccardi

May 30, 2014, 8:55 AM EDT

Oscar Pistorius has sold the house in which he fatally shot girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp last year.

One of Pistorius’ laywers said in March that the runner was selling the house to pay for legal costs associated with the trial. The trial began March 3, was first slated to run until March 20, but will now run into at least July. It is currently on break as Pistorius undergoes a mental evalution and will resume June 30.

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http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/30/oscar-pistorius-sells-house-where-he-killed-girlfriend-reeva-steenkamp/

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EXCLUSIVE: Oscar Pistorius sells his home

South Africa  | Thursday 29 May 2014 - 7:55pm

PRETORIA - The house in which Oscar Pistorius shot and killed his girlfriend now stands empty, awaiting its new owners.

eNCA can exclusively reveal that Pistorius’s family moved the last of his belongings out of his Silverwoods Estate home on Friday and that the house went for between four- and five-million rand.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:44 pm

Oscar Pistorius' brother Carl 'badly hurt' after head-on car crash



A family spokesperson said Carl is 'intensive care' but out of danger

Heather Saul | Saturday 02 August 2014

Oscar Pistorius' elder brother Carl is being treated in intensive care following a head-on collision with another car on Friday night, local media has reported.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/oscar-pistorius-brother-carl-in-intensive-care-after-headon-car-crash-9644241.html
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Post by Freckles on Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:27 pm

IIRC it was Carl who was involved in an auto accident just a short time before Reeva was killed. He was still being held prior to charges/trial when OP was arrested for the death of Reeva. In the auto accident, which was bizarre, Carl hit a young woman and killed her before leaving the scene.  

Might want to either check on this or try to find the links I had posted earlier on.

So what goes round comes round, Carl.... some lessons are harder to learn.
Like, does this family have any controls on their actions?
OP certainly behaves recklessly and without concern. Shooting thru a sunroof, crashing into a dock, starting/participating in bar room brawls, and between the two of them killing two young women etc...
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Post by Freckles on Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:19 am

Makes mention of Carl and the killing of a biker in 2008 but it said he was cleared in 2013. IIRC, he was just getting out of jail while OP was going in...:

" ... Last year he was cleared over the death of a female motorcyclist who crashed into his car during a bike rally in 2008. ..."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713998/Oscar-Pistorius-older-brother-intensive-care-internal-injuries-car-crash-South-Africa.html
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Post by Freckles on Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:45 am

This ran in Feb 24. 2013.
Said he killed the biker in 2010, NOT 2008.

" ...Carl Pistorius was already in court last Thursday, as his brother Oscar was facing a bail hearing, and will appear again at the end of next month.

Carl Pistorius is charged with culpable homicide, a lesser charge than the premeditated murder case against his brother.

The charge carries a possible 15-year prison term.

Carl’s trial was supposed to begin on Thursday, the same day his Olympian brother was freed on bail.

But the case was postponed until next month. ....."

http://nypost.com/2013/02/24/oscar-pistorius-brother-carl-faces-homicide-charges-in-2010-car-crash-report/


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/oscar-pistoriuss-older-brother-carl-also-faces-homicide-trial-over-death-of-woman-in-car-crash-8508391.html

Hard to copy comments here so I give you the link:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/curious-case-oscar-pistorius-jail-bound-without-any-legs-1079434/index72.html



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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:17 pm

Closing arguments filed by Pistorius's legal team

Gia Nicolaides | a day ago

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:45 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:OSCAR PISTORIOUS MURDER TRIAL - LIVE STREAM

LINKS:

The Telegraph - Watch live: Oscar Pistorius murder trial

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10689058/Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial-March-11-as-it-happened.html


The Guardian - Oscar Pistorius trial - live stream

Full coverage of the trial of South African athlete for murder of girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, in Pretoria last year

http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2014/mar/03/reeva-steenkamp-oscar-pistorius-trial-live-stream


Mediaite - Oscar Pistorius Trial LIVE VIDEO

http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-live-here-oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-day-7/


WPTV  West Palm Beach - Live video from the Oscar Pistorius murder trial

http://www.wptv.com/oscar-pistorius-trial


eNCA - Oscar Pistorius Trial LIVE

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial/

Reposting links provided by AD.
Trial resumes early this AM in USA.
We are to hear closing arguments from state this AM.
Closing arguments by defense are for tomorrow.

I do not know if the state gets to split their closing arguments or not.
It is interesting to see how the courts operate in other countries.
I am curious as to whether state will provide any additional info from recent events.
I am disappointed they did not address the blood in the bedroom on the wall and lack of bloody handprints from OP on the stairwell, etc.. Plenty on his clothing and his body.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:43 am

Nel is presenting his closing argument.
Periodically, the judge asks him questions.

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial/

Live blog here as well:
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:54 am

Theresa Taylor @journalist_jill · 31s

Nel refers to Roux's cross examination on screams of Dr Stipp: "Am I to believe #OscarPistorius was screaming in 2 tones or 2 voices?"

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 19s

Nel describes the evidence led by defense - to show that gun shots and cricket bat bashing noises similar - was "very weak"



Geoffrey York @geoffreyyork · 39s

Nel notes that #Pistorius defence had promised to call a witness to prove that Pistorius "screams like a woman" -- yet it never did.


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 49s

Nel argues that Oscar Pistorus uses "anxiety on call" for he's in trouble and needs it. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 1m

Nel: there will be argument re anxiety of the accused, but interesting that anxiety didn't present itself when OP, friends stopped by cops

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 4m

Nel describes Oscar Pistorius as "dropping the baton of truth" - first athletics metaphor in his argument. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 5m

Nel stresses that time between alleged illegal discharge of gun in Tasha's and Reeva shooting was a matter of weeks @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Theresa Taylor @journalist_jill · 7m

Nel: If an accused chooses to give evidence, & is found to be a lying witness, that is of his own doing

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 8m

Nel: accused used high performance Black Talon ammunition, which had the effect of ripping through Reeva's body....#OscarTrial @eNCAnews


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 10m

Key dispute: state argues that Reeva was fully clothed at time that she was shot. Defense says she slept in OP shorts and vest. @eNCAnews


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 12m

Nel: this will show how the accused tailored his version, how one defense wasn't possible...

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 28m

Henke Pistorius attended his son's bail hearing, but hasn't attended his trial thus far. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


Retweeted by Karyn Maughan
Stephanie Findlay @SJFindlay · 30m

#Pistorius has talked at length about his difficult and turbulent relationship with his father Henke, who is here in court today
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 15m

Gerrie Nel argues that Oscar Pistorius lawyers have tried to present two different defenses to murder charges @eNCAnews#OscarTrial

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 17m

Gerrie Nel begins with a quote,suggesting that a criminal trial is "a very blunt implement for digging up the truth". @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 18m

Judge Masipa thanks state and defense for their heads of argument - defense heads believes to be 3 times as long as prosecution @eNCAnews


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 30m

For first time, Oscar Pistorius's dad is in high court for trial. For first time, so is Reeva's dad Barry. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:58 am

andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH

#OscarPistorius lawyer shakes her head as Nel claims another big mistake made by defence with sound tests.

Dianne Hawker @diannehawker

Nel on to the gun test done by the defence. Judge Mapisa asks about the fact that the tests were done outdoors.

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 27s

State argues that banging noises at 3:17am were shots that killed Reeva. As yet, no argument on what first set of bangs were
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Theresa Taylor @journalist_jill · 1m

Nel going over things put to witnesses by Roux about sounds, that he says weren't backed up by sound expert Lin's testimony
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 31s

Nel moves onto Oscar Pistorius testimony, focusing on OP intention to fire shots at the toilet door.
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 27s

Nel says Oscar Pistorius gave three different versions of thought processes that led to him firing at toilet door.
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 9s

Nel: the accused never said this was accident, that he didn't mean to shoot. He said: I shot Reeva. I thought she was an intruder
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Nel: It's important to note that (before taking the stand) he never said it was an accident.
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 28s

State seeks to undermine evidence of Dr Derman, who suggested that Oscar Pistorius may have fired as part of "startle response"
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:09 am

Humor:



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hope this wraps up in the next 4 hours - dont want a late night
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 24s

Nel again accuses Oscar Pistorius of "tailoring his version" - this time in relation to moments before shooting
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eNCA ✔ @eNCAnews

Defence heads: "He heard a noise emanating from the toilet and in his vulnerable state believing that the intruder/s...


andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH

Nel accuses #OscarPistorius doctor, Derman, of "tying himself in knots" trying to protect athlete.

andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH

Nel accuses #OscarPistorius doctor, Derman, of "tying himself in knots" trying to protect athlete.


Alex Crawford @AlexCrawfordSky

#OscarPistorius Nel has always insisted that EVEN if OP shot at an intruder, that still constitutes murder of unknown
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 27s

Defense heads: "posed a serious threat of harm to his and the Deceased’s safety, he fired shots at the toilet door," @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 14s

Defense heads: "He heard a noise emanating from the toilet and in his vulnerable state believing that the intruder/s..@eNCAnews #OscarTrial

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 24s

Nel again accuses Oscar Pistorius of "tailoring his version" - this time in relation to moments before shooting
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Nel: nowhere in the heads of the defence, was there any argument a that the accused was a good witness
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 6s

Nel admits that he called Oscar Pistorius a liar once during cross examination, but denies he did so repeatedly @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 1m

Nel: defense argues that Oscar Pistorius's ability in the witness box had been compromised - admission he wasn't good witness
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 9s

Nel: the court needs to apply its mind, not only to witness evidence, but the probabilities in this case. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 54s

Gerrie Nel hits back at defense's questioning of why it didn't call certain witnesses, etc. he says this is state's prerogative. @eNCAnews

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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 56s

Nel: it's been quite fashionable for accused people who find themselves in a quandary, to blame the state. #OscarTrial @eNCAnews


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Nel urges court to take account of the "circumstantial evidence as a whole" - the mosaic of evidence, not its separate parts
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Nel says evidence like feathers: light on their own, but together "the scale will convincingly balance"
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 56s

Nel: shots that killed Reeva were a good grouping, they weren't fired wildly.
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Nel lists 9 "objective facts" of case. Acknowledges that "who screamed" is disputed.
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 13s

Nel lists facts in the case: there was screaming, toilet door locked from inside, Reeva's phone found in bathroom
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andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH

Nel suggests evidence shows #OscarPistorius was aiming carefully - looking down sights of pistol - as he fired. Implies less panic?

andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH


Nel moves on to #OscarPistorius position as he fired shots in bathroom. Quotes state's expert Capt Mangena.
3:35 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Nel: "the results of black talon or ranger ammunition are exactly the same." ie devastating damage to the body.
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Nel again quotes #OscarPistorius on day of killing saying he thought RS was "an intruder" - not that he'd fired "by accident."
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 39s

Nel argues that Oscar Pistorius didn't tell security to call police after shooting, just said he was fine.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:44 am

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Nel: the version of the accused is false and should be rejected.
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Nel: the accused was an appalling witness. He was vague, argumentative
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"The mendacity was so striking" says Nel, explaining why he couldn't help but accuse #OscarPistorius of lying on the witness stand.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:48 am

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Nel: "#OscarPistorius was more concerned with the implications than the truth... he was more concerned with defending his life"

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Nel: Sometimes accused persons hide behind an untrue version because they think it's better for them.
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Nel: Sometimes accused persons hide behind an untrue version because they think it's better for them.
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Oscar Pistorius claimed in plea explanation that police tampered with crime scene. Nel says he never showed how
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:53 am

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 8s

Nel: accused admitted that his evidence consisted of what he could remember, and reconstruction.That should set off warning light
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:57 am

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Nel mentions #OscarPistorius lying about "zombie stopper" bullets he used at a shooting range. "Simply fallacious."


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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:01 am

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Charl du Plessis @CharlduPlessc  ·  1m

#OscarTrial No. 2. 'I went on to the balcony to fetch fans' -- Bail app says he does, OP said he never did in testimony.



Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan  ·  37s

Nel: when we said the accused was argumentative, he bounced back and blamed his counsel. He said Mr Roux was wrong

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Nel says Oscar Pistorius made up a story about fetching a 2nd fan to "create time for Reeva to get to the bathroom"

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RT @diannehawker: Nel: there was only one fan plugged in because there was no space for a 2nd fan to be plugged in.


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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:03 am

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Nel says Oscar Pistorius was an accused "not interested in telling the truth! interested in defending his life"
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:22 am

Somehow...

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"Running" to balcony on his stumps.

Moving of the duvet.

OP said it was never on the floor...
PD pics show it was.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:50 am

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The State's heads of argument are 107 pages long.




Nel repeatedly states that Oscar Pistorius tailored testimony, says court "will with respect, have no choice" but to find he lied@eNCAnews

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Nel: OP initially claimed he didn't see Reeva when he got up...he said he didn't see her get up because it was pitch black @eNCAnews

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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan · 1m

Clear that OP scene was not properly handled by police. But Nel attacks defense for claiming it was tampered with




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Blood splatter pattern on duvet and matching blood splatter pattern on carpet under the duvet on the floor. Nel says no way this could have been transferred had PD tossed the duvet onto the floor/carpet.

Again, fans would be in wrong place for the activities OP stated.

Cricket bat: Had to have been altered due to the evidence pictures and the blood patterns on and near the cricket bat.

Had duvet NOT been there, defense counsel would have addressed this.





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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:54 am

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eNCA @eNCAnews · 26s

Nel questions why Oscar Pistorius didn't state in bail app that he spoke to Reeva after waking up, when he said so in trial


OP stated it was pitch black when he got up which is why he did not see Reeva. Yet, he KNEW where certain items were in the room.
OP was able to run in the dark on his stumps without falling.

OP stated he did not know where the duvet was but testified he had placed the duvet over Reeva when he got up;
OP stated he did NOT see Reeva when he got up.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:58 am

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The LED light was so improbable.
OP said it bothered him.
OP failed to mention the balcony light was on the whole time.
He said he could not see Reeva.



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Nel calls OP's evidence about the activation and deactivation of the alarm as "unconvincing".
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