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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:01 am

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The pants on top of the duvet.

Why would the police more the fans, toss down the duvet, and then put the blue denim pants on the top edge of the duvet?

OP said the PD had picked up the cricket bat, etc.
OP did not answer the question.

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:04 am

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OP did not mention prior to his taking the stand that he had any conversation directed to or from Reeva. Nor did he mention any sounds from the bathroom during the bail application. All couples would have shared the screams or the gunshots heard; OP never spoke to her regarding the sounds. With earlier gf, Samantha Taylor, he DID wake her up!

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Nel: "Subjectively evaluated, the accused failed to describe the perceived imminent attack as something tangible."
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:09 am

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This is important. Nel says Oscar Pistorius guilty of murder even if he believed person he was firing at was intruder.@eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:11 am

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OP had placed a phone on a charger.
He had to go downstairs to get to his phone to call security, PD.

OP was calm in the face of having just killed Reeva.

OP spoke calmly of deactivating the alarm.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:12 am

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Nel: why would Reeva not utter a word when Oscar was in the bathroom, screaming her name? It just gets ridiculous @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Nel: why would Reeva take her cell phone with her at 3 o'clock in the morning? @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:13 am

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Nel: Reeva was standing right behind the door. She's not hiding, she's talking to him. That's not what a scared person would do.@eNCAnews


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Nel: why would Reeva not utter a word when Oscar was in the bathroom, screaming her name? It just gets ridiculous @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


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Nel: why would Reeva take her cell phone with her at 3 o'clock in the morning?
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Full text of the state's heads of arguments in #OscarTrial. Helpful for following along with Nel's oral summary: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02999/HEADS_OF_ARGUMENT__2999306a.pdf …
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Nel: why would Reeva not utter a word when Oscar was in the bathroom, screaming her name? It just gets ridiculous
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:20 am

No evidence OP attempted to even open the toilet door.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:23 am

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State says OP "used well calculated and rehearsed emotional outbursts to deflect attention" and avoid answering questions.



OP said he wanted to CONFRONT the intruder but when given the opportunity, he failed to even attempt to open the door. He got his gun stood in front of the door and fired five shots with intent to kill.
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Nel accuses Pistorius of making up evidence of magazine rack moving to support his claims that he heard rack moving
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:27 am

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Nel moves on to the position of the magazine rack in the toilet. Says Wolmerans and Dixon contradict OP "100%".


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Nel: Pistorius was convinced that the magazine rack was in the right hand corner of the toilet.


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Nel hammers defense expert Roger Dixon: "he was an expert on everything".
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:32 am

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State heads: "In this matter the State succeeded in giving the court a glimpse of the “real” relationship that existed between OP and Reeva"
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:33 am

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State: "The Defence has and will again argue that 90% of all the messages ( between Reeva and Oscar) were of a loving nature..
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:35 am

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Nel insists that #OscarPistorius should have continued screaming after seeing RSteenkamp following shooting. Would be "normal" to do so...
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:38 am

OP said he thot the door was opening which is why he shot.
It was NOT because he heard a magazine rack moving...
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State argues OP actions "demonstrate pre-planning in that he armed himself, moved towards the toilet and killed the person in the toilet"
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:41 am

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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:44 am

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State says, if court accepts OP version of events "as reasonably possibly true, the accused cannot escape a conviction on culpable homicide"

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Nel says OP was "goal-directed" to "deal" with the person in the toilet
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State: "OP is incapable of taking responsibility for any wrongdoing... his attitude is that he was the “victim” of circumstance."
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 am

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Nel: it's amazing that people who'd never met each other would make statements with this degree of corroboration.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:59 am

Nel points out the screaming stopped AFTER the gunshots.
Had OP been the one screaming, normal reaction would have been to scream even more when he realized he had just shot his loved one.
But the screaming stopped.

OP said he screamed when entering the passage;
then the stall door shut.

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Nel: "It's not a normal couple. It's not one of those normal relationships. This relationship ended in death."


andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH

Nel asks court to accept that relationship was not "without problems." Judge keeps chin in hands, and stares forward impassively.


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Nel: I know the defense will argue at length about this brilliant relationship, but Reeva was saying she was unhappy 7 days before death.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:29 am

@Freckles:

Thank you so much for all the links and updates!  Cool
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Nel argues Saayman evidence that Reeva ate two hours before death "destroys OP evidence that they had been sleeping"
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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:34 am

Hi, AD! Don't know how much more I will post. Tired and it is brutal following the accent. IMO, the delivery by Nel appears disjointed and is difficult to follow. EX: He said there were 13 points to show OP lied. Nel began with enumeration but then started running the different points into one another. Whew...
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:35 am

Oscar's version a fabrication: State

South Africa | Thursday 7 August 2014 - 12:41pm


File image. State prosecutor Gerrie Nel has started his final arguments in the Oscar Pistorius murder trial. Picture:

PRETORIA – There was never a perceived intruder in Oscar Pistorius’s bathroom on the night he shot Reeva Steenkamp dead – the story was a fabrication.

This is the crux of the state’s case as closing arguments began in the North Gauteng High Court on Thursday where the high profile murder trial is coming to an end.

“We will argue that the accused’s version should not be accepted. If the accused’s version is rejected, it means there was no perceived intruder whatsoever,” said prosecutor Gerrie Nel.

“And that, if accepted, is devastating for the accused. And that is our version.”

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:39 am

Freckles wrote:Hi, AD!  Don't know how much more I will post. Tired and it is brutal following the accent.  IMO, the delivery by Nel appears disjointed and is difficult to follow. EX: He said there were 13 points to show OP lied. Nel began with enumeration but then started running the different points into one another.  Whew...

Hi Freckles,

Yes, but he has made some very important points about Pistorius never taking responsibility for his actions and the many inconsistencies in his testimony.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:47 am

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Nel now on illegal ammo possession charges that OP faces. He claims he was keeping alleged illegal ammo for his father @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

7:40 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Nel: The accused is incapable of giving a true version to the court. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Oscar Trial: The 13 big inconsistencies

South Africa | Thursday 7 August 2014 - 1:48pm


File image. Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is tackling Oscar Pistorius's version of events on the night Reeva Steenkamp was shot. Picture: eNCA / Supplied

PRETORIA – Oscar Pistorius’s version of events on the night he shot and killed Reeva Steenkamp are so improbable that he told at least 13 lies.

State prosecutor Gerrie Nel, in laying out his final arguments in the North Gauteng High Court, has already asked the court to disallow the three different defences put forward by the Paralympian.

“His tailoring of evidence was so significant that we have numbered the incongruencies and have come up with a baker’s dozen,” Nel said.

ONE: Pistorius had confidently stated that he had no idea what a “zombie stopper” was. He then said he could not recall having heard the word. Confronted with video evidence, he conceded having used the term himself.

TWO: After realising that he needed to be in the bedroom for his version to hold true, Pistorius changed his original statement that he was on the balcony when he first heard the alleged intruder and then later blamed his lawyer Barry Roux for the mistake.

THREE: Confronted by the need to create time for Steenkamp to have got out of bed and gone to the toilet without him noticing her, Pistorius “created another fan”. But he had then been unable to show where this fan would have been plugged in when confronted with the fact that there were no available sockets that could have been used.

“This is so impossible that it’s a clear indication of mendacity and deceitfulness,” Nel said.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:57 am

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Nel: it's NB to take into account the angle of the shots. He is the person that has to explain why he fired there @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

7:53 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Nel: if you fire four shots of high calibre ammunition into a small toilet cubicle, you must know that you will kill someone @eNCAnews

7:51 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Nel says it is clear the accused "intended to kill a human being." i.e. by arming himself and firing at the door. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am

Nel is now talking about Pistorius intent to kill, he is trying to prove premeditation; "the accused forming the intent to commit murder" ..."the accused armed himself, walked 5 meter into the bathroom, he had time to reflect" ...
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Dianne Hawker  @diannehawker  

Nel says pre-planning of a murder doesn't have to be months. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

7:59 AM - 7 Aug 2014


Dianne Hawker  @diannehawker  

Most of Nel's argument is focused on Pistorius's evidence, mentions other witnesses here and there. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

7:58 AM - 7 Aug 2014

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Nel ends argument. Roux begins. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:07 am

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Roux argues state not legally allowed to use illegal gun charges to bolster its murder case against Oscar Pistorius. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan

Roux: we know Hilton Botha was the investigating officer. We also know he told blatant lies to incriminate accused. @eNCAnews#OscarTrial

8:12 AM - 7 Aug 2014


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan

Roux now lists page numbers for instances where Nel told Oscar Pistorius he was lying. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

8:10 AM - 7 Aug 2014


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker

Roux is questioning the state's decision not to call certain witnesses - especially police who were at the scene. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

8:14 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Roux: we know Hilton Botha was the investigating officer. We also know he told blatant lies to incriminate accused. @eNCAnews#OscarTrial

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:21 am

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Roux: I'm not shouting at the top of my voice: conspiracy! Conspiracy! But this scene was disturbed. #OscarTrial @eNCAnews

8:17 AM - 7 Aug 2014


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Roux: we know that police picked up and moved things, it happened. Now state demands we show conspiracy. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:27 am

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Roux: says Pistorius does't want to run away from blame when it comes to the Tashas incident. He was negligent. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:30 am

Roux is, of course, trying to completely distort the State's argument. It is all smoke and mirrors. IMO

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:32 am

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Roux says states idea of "petrified screams" and Reeva talking to OP through the toilet door don't correlate. #OscarTrial @eNCAnews

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:40 am

Nastasya Tay @NastasyaTay     ·   2m    

Roux: State was forced to change its case (making 2nd “bangs” the gunshots) after realising RS couldn’t scream post-shots. #OscarPistorius


Nastasya Tay @NastasyaTay     ·   5m    

Raised eyebrows & incredulous looks from Judge Masipa’s registrar as Roux continues passionately with his defence of #OscarPistorius.


Nastasya Tay @NastasyaTay     ·   14m    

Police tampering: perhaps not conspiracy, just a fat dose of incompetence, suggests #OscarPistorius’ defence, “but the scene was disturbed!"


Nastasya Tay @NastasyaTay     ·   17m    

Roux insinuating the prosecution purposefully excluded Botha & certain affidavits, to strengthen their case against #OscarPistorius.


Nastasya Tay @NastasyaTay     ·   18m    

Roux asks why former police officer Hilton Botha wasn’t called to testify, says he told “blatant lies” during #OscarPistorius’ bail app.

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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:41 am

OP's dad is in court today.
He was the red scarf around the neck.
Sister Aimee is said to be present along with the uncle.

Wonder how Carl, OP's brother, is doing in the hospital?
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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:42 am

Court adjourns for the day. Resumes on Friday morning at 9:30.




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Post by Freckles on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:43 am

OP signed his own bail application.
Bit late to blame it on another or to state he failed to read what he signed....
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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:55 am

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Pistorius’s father won’t admit that he asked his son to keep ammunition for him

Apr 10, 2014 | 2:11 PM | by SAPA

Paralympian Oscar Pistorius told the court that his father had asked him if he could keep ammunition in his safe.

This, despite the two not having spoken for many years.

Pistorius said that his father put the .38 ammunition in his safe while he was not at home. He could not remember when he did this.

Nel told Pistorius that his father had refused to make a statement in the case

"My father and I haven't had communication between the two of us for many years," he replied.

Later however he said:

"He asked if he could keep the ammunition in the safe."

Pistorius then mentioned his lawyer Barry Roux, suggesting he had told the athlete it was permissible to keep somebody else's ammunition in his own safe without a licence.

"Are you telling me that Mr Roux told you were allowed to keep your father's ammunition in your safe if you're not a licence holder for .38 ammunition?"

A smiling Nel took off his glasses and looked over at Roux, who was sitting and looking down.

Read more:

http://www.all4women.co.za/news/pistorius-s-father-won-t-admit-that-he-asked-his-son-to-keep-ammunition-for-him
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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:06 am

Freckles wrote:OP signed his own bail application.
Bit late to blame it on another or to state he failed to read what he signed....

Exactly! That's why I posted the above article about his father not admitting that he had asked Oscar to keep ammunition for him.

He always tries to switch the blame, or he asks someone "to take the rap" for him. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions.


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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:17 am

Oscar Pistorius was an ‘appalling witness’ who used ‘rehearsed emotional outbursts’ to dodge questions, prosecutor says in closing arguments

Christopher Torchia and Gerald Imray, Associated Press | August 7, 2014 9:17 AM ET

PRETORIA, South Africa — Oscar Pistorius was an “appalling witness” who repeatedly lied in his testimony in a crude attempt to defend against a murder charge for killing girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, the chief prosecutor said Thursday during closing arguments in the athlete’s trial.

Prosecutor Gerrie Nel also harshly criticized the legal team of the double-amputee athlete, saying it floated more than one theory about what happened on the night that Pistorius shot Steenkamp through a closed toilet door in his home. Defence lawyers, Nel said, had argued that Pistorius acted in self-defence, fearing an intruder was in the house, but also raised the possibility that he was not criminally responsible, accidentally shooting Steenkamp because he was “startled.”

“It’s two defences that you can never reconcile,” Nel said as Pistorius sat behind him in the dock. The once-celebrated athlete appeared calm, in contrast to some past occasions during which he retched and wailed in apparent distress.

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http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/08/07/oscar-pistorius-was-an-appalling-witness-who-used-rehearsed-emotional-outbursts-to-dodge-questions-prosecutor-says-in-closing-arguments/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Re: The trial of Oscar Pistorius for the Valentine's Day killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp -- Pretoria, South Africa

Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:21 am

Alex Crawford @AlexCrawfordSky     ·   44m    

#OscarPistorius Roux promising to take Judge thro timeline tomorrow to show State's case doesnt work/fit

https://twitter.com/AlexCrawfordSky
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