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Post by CuriousPortlander on Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:03 pm


Bob Bashara Trial. Preliminary Hearing. Sept 12. Part 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZLjS_Ceu84

Bob Bashara Trial. Preliminary Hearing. Sept 12. Part 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOY1olDJsPs

Bob Bashara Trial. Preliminary Hearing. Sept 12. Part 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4lrdAU0rv4


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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:03 am

Playing catch up here.
Just listened to the vid/tape of Jane's dau on the stand.
Dau spoke of the missing wedding band of Jane's showing up AFTER Jane was found dead; she spoke of RG being given a family ring that rightfully belonged to Jane... and RG told dau she would return that to dau BUT never has..........Well, if it is known a item you rec was stolen, you have no right of ownership. I hope the ring is returned.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23407945/bashara-in-court-daughter-jessica-caught-bob-looking-at-porn
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Post by justanopinion on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:55 am

I have to admit... I really love the little outfit and slippers he wears to court!! Suits him!!
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:32 pm


Day 5

Witness 26:  Daryl Bradford; detained at jail as material witness


  • Knows Paul Munroe for almost all his life
  • never met Jane; heard about murder
  • Paul asked him to call in "tip" that his girlfriend and ex-boyfriend had something to do with murder
  • Didn't ask why; just did it; used Paul's cell phone to call it in
  • Paul gave him the phone; doesn't know who was called
  • Said what he was told to say
  • was given $20


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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:37 pm


Witness 27:  Ms. Venita Porter  (BDSM community)



  • Knows Bob from BDSM
  • Became intimate with him
  • Bob said he was married; they were not getting along; didn't want same future; had an arrangement; planning a divorce after kids out of school
  • Attended social events; church, rotary, movies, dinners, volleyball games to see Jessica play...
  • "Lived" in the dungeon; helped set it up
  • dungeon divided into two rooms
  • large cross on the wall that Bob had made was made wrong
  • Bob engaged in breath play; spanking; impotence; hitting; got dizzy and unconscious during choking; she said she was uncomfortable; he'd back off for a while and then resume
  • she'd be on the edge of passing out
  • She'd met his mother, wife, kids, friends
  • Knew Bob's friend Jim (real estate contractor)
  • She'd see Bob and Jim together; Hard Luck; Jim seemed to have access to cocaine
  • Jim offered Bob cocaine; Bob only seemed to do coke when Jim was around; saw residue on Bob's nose
  • She previously testified Nov. 12, 2012; witness reviewing
  • Now she recalls talking to Bob about cocaine; she wasn't interested in using it
  • Relationship ended; asked Bob for night of fun (dinner, dancing); to meet at Dylan's; she had drink; said he was at Hard Luck; she went there; there was no one there
  • Called Bob; said he was downstairs; come down to dungeon
  • Found him with Rachel; had never seen her before
  • They were about to have sex; witness was livid; not the kind of evening she wanted
  • They blew her off and closed door; witness stayed and went crazy again she was so mad
  • She humiliated herself while begging him not to do that
  • He kicked her out; stole some of her stuff while she was cleaning out
  • She felt like she was having a heart attack
  • R told him not to be so mean
  • Kicked her out while she was packing
  • Only discussions later were because Bob owed her money
  • Few IMs
  • No contact until found out about Jane's death; called Bob for condolences
  • Saw more of Bob after Jane's death than before
  • He showed up at her house around Mar. 2012; heard her mailbox being opened; Bob walked in door without knocking with her mail
  • Bended to Bob; didn't want to make him mad; gave condolence
  • Smiled and wanted to get him out; called prosecutor right after he left
  • He said he knew people (veiled threat against her and her kids)
  • Said she was sorry about Jane
  • Bob said that Rachel wasn't standing by his side; turned on him
  • He asked her to go to Rotary wine tasting; she didn't understand why he was there
  • She didn't go
  • Talked to Bob about where he was when Jane was murdered; had been drinking at Hard Luck; said he was outside in back alley to pick up some trash (funny; never picked up a damn thing; Bob gets people to do things for him)
  • Struck her as odd
  • Story later changed; now saying he had to go back to the house to get some keys for 5-10 minutes
  • June 2012; Bob asked her to lunch
  • She felt more comfortable keeping things calm; went along with it; easier to listen to what he had to say
  • came over to some club; no seating; drove to Hines Park; large construction crew, so she felt safe there; sat at table
  • Bob told her that he really did love Rachel; R had turned on him; he couldn't reach her; she was saying things
  • Bob talked about Jessica; Lisa Lindsey (pros.) gave Jessica copy of card Bob had sent to Rachel; Jessica was upset
  • Went for a walk with Bob around the park
  • He pulled her into the bushes where no one could see her; talked to her; why did you turn me into a whore; she was too beautiful to not be having sex; grabbed her by the neck, lifted her off the ground, and kissed her
  • She kept her hand on her boxcutters in her pocket and hoped she was going to live
  • Bob asked her to come back to his house and come stay there; no one would know
  • Bob said he needed to feel her; he didn't have much time
  • When they came out of bushes two men there (LE?); they walked passed them and left
  • Bob later got arrested (that night?)


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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:43 pm

Witness 28:  Larry Ellington - shared cell with Bob!

Warning: foul language quoted


  • currently in correction facility for robbery; serving sentence
  • used to be in Oaks correctional (not there now; not revealing where he's at now)
  • was there for about 8 weeks before being transferred
  • cellmate of Bob's; just him and Bob
  • shared cell for about 6 weeks
  • they talked; they both shared info
  • Bob told him someone said this witness was a Moore? or Muslim?; he could have things done?
  • Bob talked about Joe Gentz, guy named Steve at appliance store; and Timothy Ramsey
  • Bob wanted all three "hit" - killed!!!
  • Started off with just Joe; Bob asked if witness could get to someone already in jail; witness said yes
  • Bob cried; witness said you killed your wife; Bob said no; witness said you had her killed
  • Bob upset because they'd believe "a retard" over himself
  • Never said he had Jane killed; never denied it
  • Said he needed that "fucker" gone
  • His observation was that Bob did it
  • Bob wanted "fat piece of shit Steve gone"; witness knows who Steve is
  • Bob said Steve carries a gun ('38); Steve kept telling Bob that Steve could have Joe killed; wanted Steve killed because Steve set him up and because he was wearing a wire
  • witness played along with him; said, sure, let's do it
  • Wanted to make sure the BS ended (that's why playing along)
  • Timothy Ramsey; stayed on 3 Mile Street (Bob wrote it down for him)
  • Said Ramsey talks a lot; started a mess at Bob's compound
  • Wanted Ramsey killed; Bob didn't say specifically why
  • What Bob wrote down was later torn up and flushed
  • Talked verbally in the yard because Bob thought the cell was bugged
  • showing video of prison yard with people playing basketball; shows Bob and witness walking by and around the whole yard
  • video admitted as evidence
  • Bob offered witness cash; witness said it's going to cost you; Bob said his money was tied up (Rick? was power of attorney); had someone to sell his house for him; Rick ended up selling it for him (for $350K; less than expected)
  • Bob said he had to pay someone $100K (mom?)
  • Bob's story changed
  • Bob's money was tied up; Bob had to go to court for his money; state had his money tied up
  • Bob asked witness to call Rick; witness called to discuss what happened at court (related to Bob's money being tied up)
  • Conveyed info learned to Bob
  • Rick put money into witness' account (limited to $50/month, because witness owed restitution he couldn't get more)
  • Talked to Rick about receiving money; witness talked to Rick twice on phone
  • Bob was going to offer property for hits; mortgage value was coming down; Bob could pay him off with house
  • hit person could take over the note; rent another property and make a profit
  • witness' aunt in real estate; said he could have appraisal done
  • House was on Gilford?
  • Witness told Bob not to tell anyone else about the plans for the hits
  • Bob told witness that he told a guy in Level 2 the same thing; before arraignment; put in level 4 after that; another guy said he could make it happen for $1K; this was before Bob met this witness
  • Witness said he had too many people involved; bringing too much heat
  • Bob did what he had to do
  • Lost contact with other guy when moved to Level 4
  • Witness wrote letter to prosecutor to share info; told Ms Worthy what Bob wanted him to do
  • Then witness interviewed by prosecutor's office; told them what he testified to today
  • Has not been promised anything in return for testimony; only told if he gets re-sentenced, prosecutor would say he had cooperated in this case
  • Witness was put in bullpen with Bob; Bob called him a rat; pointed him out to whoever was watching and Bob pointed him out and called him a rat; "he's doing a good job" telling on Bob

    Cross:

  • Used to be a moore?  Wasn't active.  Used to be a Muslim.  A moore practices Islamic; science temple of America; active back in 2006-7; was in prison at the time
  • You can get things done when you're a Moore or a Muslim
  • Witness has spent most of his life in prison
  • Witness knows what to do and what not to do; unwritten rules of being in prison
  • At Oaks facility, witness was in Level 4
  • 6-7 weeks as Bob's cellmate; 22 hours per day (2 hours for recreation)
  • Does Bob just talk all the time?  No
  • Sept. 8, 2012; committed armed robbery; convicted 2013
  • Aug. 31, 2012; committed armed robbery; convicted
  • within the last 10 years, you've been convicted of two bank robberies (2004) - yes
  • witness sentenced to 5.5 to 25.5 for each; served 5.5 years for one of the bank robberies
  • witness didn't want to see anyone killed
  • witness said he could get things done
  • witness told Bob he could have witness' cousin kill someone; never told prosecutor that
  • witness said he needed his time cut down; couldn't be offered that
  • decided to "do the right thing"
  • witness is now housed in level 2 (dorm style); benefit he got as a result of testifying
  • witness can't remember name of prisoner Bob was talking to before him; worked with maintenance people who Bob could talk to
  • Saw Bob talk to few other people; most people didn't want to be bothered with him
  • attorney is saying witness lies; witness says he's not lying

    Re-direct

  • originally asked for benefit of reduced time; was told they couldn't do it
  • witness still gave a statement without getting time cut
  • if word got out that witness was a rat, in Level 4, he could have been harmed
    Judge asking for no speaking objections
  • Bob called him Buckwheat; made witness mad


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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Witness 29:  Richard Falcinelli; personal friend of Bob's; BDSM


  • Midnight Rider/ Sir Rick are his BDSM names
  • Knows Bob thru BDSM
  • power of attorney for Bob for selling Middlesex home; received order to freeze Bob's assets
  • Bob asked Rick to put money on Mr. Ellington's account; eventually complied
  • Some relative of Larry, and then Larry, asked him to put money in Ellington's account; didn't do it until Bob asked him to
  • Rick couldn't speak freely with Bob due to calls being recorded; repeatedly told Bob to "shut the f**k up, Bob" and not talk on the phone and with others
  • Bob not following Rick's advice not to put money into Larry's account
  • playing recording; witness recognizes Bob and his own voice
  • Recording:  Bob saying put $50 on that account; others calling witness to ask same
  • Reluctantly did so; fiduciary responsibility to do what Bob asked
  • Witness talked to Larry directly
  • Recently learned from defense attnys that Larry was cooperating
  • referred to Larry as "that two-faced SOB" - witness said to Bob "I told you just to STFU"
  • Bob admitted to witness he was talking to Larry
  • witness laughing when recording is being played; prosecutor admonishing witness for laughing; this is a murder case; objection; sustained
  • witness has about 35 websites he's on (alt.com, fetlife.com, (fetish) etc.)
  • knew Rachel; partner, slave and submissive; Bob's Bella
  • over the last 12 years, met several (4-5 or more) women that Bob was involved with
  • Bob said Jane had no interest in BDSM
  • Bob said he loved Rachel; also that he loved Jane
  • getting contentious between prosecutor and witness; he's volunteering more than being asked
  • Judge admonished to answer only question being asked
  • Bob said he was buying house; wanted future with Rachel
  • At one point, after murder, he said he was buying the house with Jane (never said that before murder)
  • before murder, Bob never mentioned Joe's name
  • Never said that he thought Joe killed Jane until after Joe turned himself in
  • After Joe came out in media, Bob explained Joe was maintenance man; Joe was leaving Bob msgs on cell phone
  • April 21,2012 statement:  witness testified that Bob never told him he suspected Joe (this was after Joe had been arrested and charged)
  • Before Bob was charged with solicitation, Bob said he thought Joe killed Jane (after his April testimony)
  • After murder, but before June, Bob mentioned Cadillac; that Joe had seen it, and Joe wanted to get in compensation for rental property services work; reviewing April statement for related comment; as of April, Bob had not told witness that Joe was trying to get car
  • Bob told witness that he had left house early on day of murder; made several stops; one was at bar on Mack Ave; came and went from Mack Ave. property
  • Bob said he was concerned about not being able to reach Jane while traveling between stops
  • Bob told witness that Bob had given Joe a check the Monday before the murder; met in person to give him a check for $450
  • Bob never mentioned that Joe ever made threats against Bob, family or Jane
  • Bob said Joe wasn't satisfied with the amount Bob paid him
  • Bob never said he feared for his safety after this conversation
  • Bob never told witness he was trying to have Joe killed for trying to avenge Jane's murder until after the allegations against Bob came out (sometime in 2012)
  • April 8, 2013, witness gave statement to prosecutors saying Bob never indicated he wanted to kill Joe to avenge murder; saying now that was not true?  (Not sure about that)
  • Told Bob he shouldn't have called Steve; he should have called this witness
  • Week of Jane's funeral; Bob asked witness to contact Rachel to see if she's alright and tell her that he still cared for her (witness can't remember which time he was supposed to convey which msg)
  • Bob asked witness to set up profile on fetlife (fetish website); after he was locked up
  • Witness knew where Rachel was, so fetlife wasn't to find Rachel
  • Some discussion on "catpurr"/Teresa; couldn't follow
  • Witness found out about PPO that Rachel had against Bob; said he never contacted Rachel on Bob's behalf after that
  • weekend of Jan 21, 2012, witness went to BDSM event; saw Bob and Rachel there
  • People don't usually engaged in breath play at BDSM events, but he has been to some where it did happen; never witnessed anyone pass out from it; witness has participated in it himself
  • Bob told witness he provided list of suspects to LE (15-18 names!!!); week before funeral
  • Joe's name was on the list; this info came out after that


Recess for shortened lunch; reconvene at 1:15, I think

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Post by justanopinion on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Curious does Blob even look like he understands that this is not going well...  What is his body language?? 

I can't imagine having this kind of testimony not be life shattering... even the people in prison don't like him... and there is a code....
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:37 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:Live streaming links:  

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/live-bob-bashara-in-court-for-preliminary-exam/-/1719418/21849316/-/smdpjiz/-/index.html

http://www.freep.com/livestream/article/20130910/NEWS05/130909012/Watch-live-Testimony-continue-Bob-Bashara-preliminary-exam-

http://www.wxyz.com/subindex/news/news_livestream2

Bumping...

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:39 pm

justanopinion wrote:Curious does Blob even look like he understands that this is not going well...  What is his body language?? 

I can't imagine having this kind of testimony not be life shattering... even the people in prison don't like him... and there is a code....
IMO, he looks like he's in disbelief that all these people are testifying against him. He looks like he thinks they are all lying, as he keeps shaking his head "no", so no, I don't think he has a clue how bad this looks; I think he thinks his lawyers can fix all of this. It's going to be a rude awakening, IMO!
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Post by justanopinion on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:54 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
justanopinion wrote:Curious does Blob even look like he understands that this is not going well...  What is his body language?? 

I can't imagine having this kind of testimony not be life shattering... even the people in prison don't like him... and there is a code....
IMO, he looks like he's in disbelief that all these people are testifying against him.  He looks like he thinks they are all lying, as he keeps shaking his head "no", so no, I don't think he has a clue how bad this looks; I think he thinks his lawyers can fix all of this.  It's going to be a rude awakening, IMO!
Just listening to some of the testimony I am incredulous that anyone would sit there and let this all be heard... Even JG who for all intensive purposes is delayed knew enough to take a plea.. Blob must be an imbecile!! Some laundry just doesn't come clean. Blob needs to be reminded of some old sayings...me thinks! 


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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:06 pm


Witness 30:  Eileen Stratelak  



  • Fall 2011 - saw Bob at Cedar Gardens restaurant
  • Said he was meeting a tenant; he came in front door; she came in back; afterward recognized her as Rachel
  • They were there for a while; they went out different doors
  • Saw thru window that they met up outside
  • Spoke to Jane on  1/24  to make plans for later; she declined; wanted to go home and rest
  • She told Bob she had spoken to Jane on the 24th; never asked her any questions about Jane; just said you're probably the last one to talk to her
  • First story was carjacking somewhere on Jefferson; someone could have taken her
  • Didn't mention Joe
  • She followed story in media; she later confronted Bob
  • Bob told her not to believe media; asked about media story about Joe pulling out of garage and that Bob was also seen letting Joe out of garage
  • He said, Eileen, I guess I was at the wrong place at the time...went home at 6 p.m. to get keys; saw Jane's bag; went to bathroom; was in a hurry; her car was not in driveway; I guess Joe was in the garage with her
  • Prior to that, he never said he was there
  • Never said he looked in garage or went in there
  • Bob said that he himself associates with losers; was trying to help out Joe; Joe wanted money; Joe killed his wife and must have felt guilty, Joe told Steve, and Steve said blame Bob
  • Bob said they had no DNA and had nothing on him; said Joe was going to be found incompetent; if so, there'd be no proof against Bob
  • She asked about S&M; he said he's not into that; doesn't own black leather; he and Jane didn't have a relationship; said he had an ED problem; he started "crying" but there were no tears; he should just end it (implying he should just kill himself)



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Stipulation as to how LE found Jane in car; went too fast to capture
Stipulation  that Jane's was transported to ME

Nothing further from the people!

Court in recess until 2:15!
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:42 pm


My feed this afternoon was real choppy, so I missed a lot; here's what I got:

Judge's comments:

  • Court observed Bob's non-verbal communications to Rachel; licking his lips with his tongue; "he was going to town!" with it; rubbing his heart; crying tears, even though his eyes were as dry as sandpaper; husband's supposed to protect wife
  • Lots of evidence, mostly to do with motive; not looking at that because not required to prove, some witnesses aren't the cleanest of which (convicts); "if you're dealing with scum, chances are you're pretty much scum, too".
  • The State produced evidence to substantiate those witnesses
  • alleged murder for hire; solicitations; seems like he thought he was Mafia; putting hits on multiple people; like "he's the man"; way too bizarre
  • Could have skipped the exam and gone right to trial

  • Overwhelming evidence that the charges were committed; probable cause that Bob committed them all


Sept. 20  9 a.m. - arraignment

Woohoo!  Bob's going to trial!!!



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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:49 pm


Per J4J site, firearm charges were added to Bashara!!!

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:04 pm


Judge rules Bob Bashara to stand trial for murder of wife Jane

Posted: 9:26 AM  Last Updated: 11 minutes ago

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DETROIT (WXYZ) - UPDATE: A judge ruled Friday that Bob Bashara will stand trial for the murder of his wife Jane.

The ruling comes after a week of preliminary hearings where the judge heard from 30 witnesses and determined there was both "overwhelming evidence," and probable cause for Bashara to stand trial.
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Read more:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/live-preliminary-hearing-continues-friday-in-bashara-murder-case
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Bob Bashara ordered to stand trial in wife's death

3:01 PM, September 13, 2013



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Judge Kenneth King said he considered five days of testimony about Bashara's alleged relationship with the admitted killer of Jane Bashara, Joe Gentz, the number of phone calls, the false alibis and the murder for hire allegations as well as making his own observations about Bashara's behavior in court.

"This is way too bizarre," King said.

"A husband is supposed to protect. There is supposed to be trust in a relationship," he said.

...

King said today that Bashara was "going to town" on his lips with his tongue when Gillett was testifying.
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Read more:  http://www.freep.com/article/20130913/NEWS02/309130107/Bashara-sex-murder-mistress
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:35 pm

justanopinion wrote:
CuriousPortlander wrote:IMO, he looks like he's in disbelief that all these people are testifying against him.  He looks like he thinks they are all lying, as he keeps shaking his head "no", so no, I don't think he has a clue how bad this looks; I think he thinks his lawyers can fix all of this.  It's going to be a rude awakening, IMO!
Just listening to some of the testimony I am incredulous that anyone would sit there and let this all be heard... Even JG who for all intensive purposes is delayed knew enough to take a plea.. Blob must be an imbecile!! Some laundry just doesn't come clean. Blob needs to be reminded of some old sayings...me thinks! 


never put anything in writing you don't want the whole world to read
if you can't do the time... don't do the crime
and my personal favourite.... if you play ...you pay!!
I know, JAO. You'd think he'd be mortified for all of this info to surface, if not for himself, for his children!  But we all know he never thinks of anyone but himself.  He would have been smarter to plead guilty and avoid all this, but then again, we know he's not so smart.  And he has no compassion for anyone else, so for him to put his kids through this is just despicable.

I feel so sorry for Jane's family and children that they'll all have to go through this sordid trial. May justice prevail!
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Post by justanopinion on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:45 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
justanopinion wrote:Just listening to some of the testimony I am incredulous that anyone would sit there and let this all be heard... Even JG who for all intensive purposes is delayed knew enough to take a plea.. Blob must be an imbecile!! Some laundry just doesn't come clean. Blob needs to be reminded of some old sayings...me thinks! 


never put anything in writing you don't want the whole world to read
if you can't do the time... don't do the crime
and my personal favourite.... if you play ...you pay!!
I know, JAO. You'd think he'd be mortified for all of this info to surface, if not for himself, for his children!  But we all know he never thinks of anyone but himself.  He would have been smarter to plead guilty and avoid all this, but then again, we know he's not so smart.  And he has no compassion for anyone else, so for him to put his kids through this is just despicable.

I feel so sorry for Jane's family and children that they'll all have to go through this sordid trial. May justice prevail!
from what I am reading that was said by these 30 witness' I am hopeful that Justice will prevail. Although in the past it seemed like open and shut was not prevailing in some trials. I can't believe what a scum BB is with trying to intimidate or coerce Rachel with his antics. How is it that he fooled so many in his circle when he is obviously incompetent to keep anything hidden he is not exactly slick!
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:48 pm


Bob Bashara ordered to stand trial in wife's death in case judge calls 'too bizarre'

6:34 PM, September 13, 2013



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King said the 30 witnesses who testified during Bashara’s five-day preliminary examination gave a road map as to who was responsible for the demise of the Grosse Pointe Park mother.

“And I could probably add one more to that list because I also had the opportunity to observe Mr. Bashara in the court room as well,” King said. “This court observed Mr. Bashara rubbing his heart, crying tears, even though his eyes were as dry as sandpaper.”

After admonishing Bashara earlier this week, King said, he watched as Bashara licked his lips while Rachel Gillett, his former mistress, testified.

“And it wasn’t a simple licking of the lips,” the judge said. “I mean he was going to town on his lips with his tongue.”
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King said that if the allegations against Bashara — including giving false alibis and the murder-for-hire solicitations — are to be believed, “it almost sounds like the defendant ... thought he was mafia or something.”

Bashara is scheduled to be arraigned in Wayne County Circuit Court on Sept. 20.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:06 pm


'I lived in Bob's sex basement': Third mistress testifies about businessman accused of having hitman kill his wife so he could start polyamorous BDSM life

PUBLISHED: 17:36 EST, 13 September 2013 | UPDATED: 17:36 EST, 13 September 2013


Third wheel: Oregon woman, Janet Leehmann, pictured, who Bashara had found and had been grooming to join him and Gillett in their polyamorous love in took the stand on Thursday.


Dirty: Leehmann, picturd hear with blonde hair, described how Bashara also made her call him 'Master Bob' and sent her dirty letters, a leather collar and a T-shirt he had worn for three days straight so she could smell his scent


'He was standing behind me, he wrapped his hands around my neck and I passed out cold,' she testified. When asked by Lindsay if she consented to the asphyxiation, she said, 'no, not really.'
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Leehmann said he responded: 'Well little girl you should have told me you were getting bad, I could have stopped.'
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:03 pm


Bob Bashara Trial. Preliminary Hearing. Sept 13. Part 1



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2I4YewNOYU

Bob Bashara Trial. Preliminary Hearing. Sept 13. Part 2. Hearing Concludes
(This includes Judge's comments at the end)


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Courtroom video: Judge's decision to try Bob Bashara (Separate video with just Judge's comments)
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Post by Freckles on Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:52 pm

At @ 10:50 it is stated Jane's purse was in the front seat of the car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8hdaH4ygBU

At @ 5:00 BB told wit he had entered the home, saw Jane's purse in the house, used the toilet and left:
Eileen S vid from above.

Problem:
How did the purse get from the house to the car, BB?
You lied.
Again.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:47 pm

Freckles wrote:At @ 10:50 it is stated Jane's purse was in the front seat of the car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8hdaH4ygBU

At @ 5:00 BB told wit he had entered the home, saw Jane's purse in the house, used the toilet and left:
Eileen S vid from above.

Problem:
How did the purse get from the house to the car, BB?
You lied.
Again.
Good catch, Freckles!
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Post by justanopinion on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:14 am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8hdaH4ygBU

When the Judge is viewing the pictures of Jane he seems visibly upset and then looks at Bob with distain. I like this judge!
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Drug-sale admission in Bashara case won't lead to arrest

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Paul Monroe, who has prior criminal convictions, testified recently at Bashara’s preliminary examination that he provided Bashara with 50 grams of cocaine, which police said would have a street value of $5,000 or more. Monroe said he gave it to Bashara without compensation as a “favor.”

But Maria Miller, spokeswoman for Prosecutor Kym Worthy, said the incident’s age and lack of corroborating physical evidence make it moot.

“There is no drug evidence since they were alleged to have been delivered in 2012,” Miller said. “We cannot charge a crime based solely on a statement.”
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:43 pm

Bob Bashara to be arraigned on charges he murdered wife Jane Bashara

Bashara charged with first degree murder in wife's death

Author: Lisa Ray, Managing Editor, ClickOnDetroit.com, lray@wdiv.com

Published On: Sep 19 2013 08:01:16 PM EDT

DETROIT - Bob Bashara will be arraigned in connection with his wife's murder Friday in front of Wayne County Circuit Court Judge Vonda Evans.

You will be able to watch the court appearance live on ClickOnDetroit.com beginning at 9 a.m.

Read more:

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:58 am


Another live-streaming feed for arraignment:


http://www.freep.com/livestream/article/20130920/NEWS02/130919010/Watch-live-9-m-Bob-Barshara-faces-first-degree-murder-charges-arraignment
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Post by Freckles on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:01 am

TX for staying with this, CP.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:30 am


Bob Bashara's Trial Date - March 3, 2014
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:33 am


@Freckles:


You were asking in Chat this morning what the charges are against Bashara.  From my notes, they are:


  • 1st degree pre-meditated murder = mandatory LWOP
  • Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder = life or any term of years
  • Solicitation to commit murder = life or any term of years
  • subjorning perjury during capital trial = life or any term of years
    - encouraging witnesses to lie under oath
  • witness intimidation - 15 yr. felony
    - encouraging wit call in false tips
    - encouraging witnesses to leave state
    - encouraging witnesses to lie
  • obstruction of justice - 5 year felony

Plus, felony firearms charges were added to two of the murder counts, but not sure which ones.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:46 am


Bob Bashara's arraignment:


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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:26 am


Bob Bashara Pleads Not Guilty In Wife’s Murder

September 20, 2013 10:56 AM

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DETROIT (WWJ) – Grosse Pointe Park businessman Bob Bashara has pleaded not guilty in the death of his wife, found strangled last year.

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A trial date was set for March 3, 2014.  Pre-trial motions are due by Dec. 11.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:24 pm


Bob Bashara tells judge "I'm Blessed" during first appearance in Circuit Court

Posted: 09/20/2013  Last Updated: 5 hours and 14 minutes ago

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DETROIT (WXYZ) - Bob Bashara appeared in the Wayne County Circuit court for the first time today. When he approached the bench, he spoke briefly with Judge Vonda Evans, telling her “I’m blessed.”

The comments came during Bashara's arraignment on murder charges in the death of his wife Jane. A not guilty plea was entered during the hearing.
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Attorney appeals Joseph Gentz's murder conviction

5:37 PM, September 25, 2013

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An attorney for a former handyman in prison for killing a Grosse Pointe Park woman is appealing the man’s murder conviction.

Phillip Comorski, an appellate lawyer appointed to represent Joseph Gentz, said in a document filed with the Michigan Court of Appeals that Gentz wrote a letter to Wayne County Circuit Court indicating “certain conditional promises associated with the plea were not fulfilled by the prosecutor.”

Gentz didn’t fully understand the second-degree murder plea he was entering into, he said.

“The trial court failed to adequately address the claims of the letter, and the trial court erroneously conducted a post-conviction hearing without his appellate lawyer,” said the document filed Friday.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:12 am

Kym Worthy, Bashara prosecutor, drops a retrial case against
Highers brothers....

http://www.freep.com/article/20130925/NEWS01/309250102/Highers-brothers-who-spent-25-years-in-prison-shocked-and-elated-homicide-charges-being-dropped

Interesting read.
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Prosecutors urge court to deny Joseph Gentz appeal in Jane Bashara murder case

6:45 PM, October 23, 2013

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Prosecutors responded to an appeal filed by the new attorney for Joseph Gentz — the man convicted of murdering a Grosse Pointe Park woman — and are arguing it should be denied.

In a document filed with the Michigan Court of Appeals late last week, they said the former handyman, who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the January 2012 death of Jane Bashara, can’t challenge his plea on appeal unless he has moved to withdraw the plea on the same basis in the trial court.

“Defendant in this case was charged with murder, was represented by counsel and had entered into a plea agreement with the people,” prosecutors said. “He made an informed decision to enter into a plea agreement with the people and plead guilty to a lesser charge of second-degree murder.”
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:57 pm

Grosse Pointe Park's Bob Bashara, charged with killing wife, to appear in Detroit courtroom Tuesday

By Gus Burns | fburns@mlive.com
on December 09, 2013 at 3:03 PM, updated December 09, 2013 at 3:20 PM

DETROIT, MI -- The murder case against Robert "Bob" Bashara, the Grosse Pointe Park investor and landlord accused of killing his wife, moves closer to trial this week.

The 55-year-old -- he'll celebrate his 56th birthday Thursday -- is scheduled to be in Wayne County Circuit Court at 9 a.m. Tuesday for a pretrial conference before Judge Vonda Evans.

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:54 pm


Bob Bashara requests use of laptop for document review as March 3 trial approaches

December 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM, updated December 10, 2013 at 12:30 PM

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DETROIT, MI - Grosse Pointe Park's Bob Bashara, accused of the Jan. 24, 2012 murder of his wife, 56-year-old Jane Bashara, has requested use of a laptop computer to review court documents in the case against him.

He appeared in court for a pretrial conference Tuesday and will return Jan. 31 for a motion hearing on multiple issues, said a representative for Judge Vonda Evans.
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Read more:  http://www.mlive.com/detroit-river/index.ssf/2013/12/bob_bashara_requests_use_of_la.html

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I'll bet he thinks he'll get Internet access by requesting a laptop; good luck with that!   Laughing
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Post by One Wonders on Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:04 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Bob Bashara requests use of laptop for document review as March 3 trial approaches

December 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM, updated December 10, 2013 at 12:30 PM

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DETROIT, MI - Grosse Pointe Park's Bob Bashara, accused of the Jan. 24, 2012 murder of his wife, 56-year-old Jane Bashara, has requested use of a laptop computer to review court documents in the case against him.

He appeared in court for a pretrial conference Tuesday and will return Jan. 31 for a motion hearing on multiple issues, said a representative for Judge Vonda Evans.
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Read more:  http://www.mlive.com/detroit-river/index.ssf/2013/12/bob_bashara_requests_use_of_la.html

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I'll bet he thinks he'll get Internet access by requesting a laptop; good luck with that!   Laughing

He's hoping for a laptop to intimidate people against him, most likely. Paper hard copies have worked out real good all these years no reason to change it for the likes of these kinds of people. Ugh he turns my stomach.
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Judge May Let Incarcerated Bob Bashara Have Laptop

December 10, 2013 2:58 PM

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DETROIT (WWJ/AP) - A judge said Tuesday that she will consider whether a suburban Detroit man charged in the strangulation of his wife should be allowed to use a laptop computer in jail to review legal documents.

...“I have very distorted vision, and being able to enlarge on a computer would be most helpful,” Bashara told Judge Vonda Evans.

Bashara spoke to Evans about his diabetes, and said he suffers from macular degeneration.

Assistant Prosecutor Lisa Lindsey, who’s worried about Internet access, said she opposes the request.

...Evans said she would consult with jail officials and reconsider the issue at a Jan. 9 hearing.
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Post by Freckles on Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:48 am

More links on BB getting laptop:

Bob Bashara requests use of laptop for document review as March 3 trial approaches

Testimony indicated Bashara had a kinky, porn-addled and philandering lifestyle that he kept separate from his wife and two children. It is through a website catering to BDSM, which stands for bondage and discipline, sadism and masochism, Bashara met his mistress — whom he referred to as his "slave" — Rachel Gillett, in 2009. She called him "Master Bob." wrote:

http://www.mlive.com/detroit-river/index.ssf/2013/12/bob_bashara_requests_use_of_la.html

I am very surprised they let BB have use of a laptop.
I sure hope it is closed to internet due to his past proclivities with internet uses....I think this WILL back fire badly... Shocked 
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Post by Freckles on Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:51 am

BTW, getting the laptop use is a real sweet birthday package for him...
I hope it does NOT set a precedence.
As for the visual problem: IIRC, macular degeneration is advanced thru the use of the lighting coming from the computer...I could be wrong as that is old story....
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Post by One Wonders on Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:19 pm

This is total BS! What a con he is. If that judge gives him the ability to use a computer I'm going to hit the ceiling. Why not just open the doors of the jails and prisons and let em all go?
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:42 pm


Bashara trial expected to be unprecedented in Wayne County

Bob Bashara accused of plotting to have wife Jane Bashara killed
Published On: Dec 11 2013 06:35:26 PM EST   Updated On: Dec 11 2013 06:48:00 PM EST

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DETROIT - The Local 4 Defenders are learning new information about the Bob Bashara case and one thing is for sure: the trial is going to be huge.

...The Defenders have learned there is a mountain of evidence. This case has been ongoing for almost two years. Detectives are still hard at work putting it all together. The trial itself likely will last more than a month.

"The witness list is probably close to 300 witnesses, tens of thousands of pages. I think this will be between 10,000 and 20,000 pages of documents," said Flood.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:49 am

IIRC, the evidence for the trial crosses MANY state lines as there are witnesses (not just the mistress) who BB tried to hire for murder from other states.  This is going to be an intense case.  Lots of evidence and it will be intertwined...

I wonder how many state attys there will be.... Specialists? Of interest, I read recently, BB was into the child porn. Wonder if that will be broached. I had read it was from the computer. That is the main reason I am opposed to BB having computer access--- he abused his rights previously by looking at child porn on the computer and then by committing illegal acts with the computer...
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Post by One Wonders on Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:01 am

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Bashara trial expected to be unprecedented in Wayne County

Bob Bashara accused of plotting to have wife Jane Bashara killed
Published On: Dec 11 2013 06:35:26 PM EST   Updated On: Dec 11 2013 06:48:00 PM EST

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DETROIT - The Local 4 Defenders are learning new information about the Bob Bashara case and one thing is for sure: the trial is going to be huge.

...The Defenders have learned there is a mountain of evidence. This case has been ongoing for almost two years. Detectives are still hard at work putting it all together. The trial itself likely will last more than a month.

"The witness list is probably close to 300 witnesses, tens of thousands of pages. I think this will be between 10,000 and 20,000 pages of
documents," said Flood.
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Read more:  http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/bashara-trial-expected-to-be-unprecedented-in-wayne-county/-/1719314/23439002/-/nn56pu/-/index.html

Wow CP, thank you so much for this info. Gosh I wish we could see what they have.


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Post by Freckles on Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:10 am

We had a lot of threads opened under the Jodi Arias case.
Should we be thinking of setting up something like that for the BB case?
It does make it a whole lot easier to file and retrieve info and links...
IMO, this case IS going to fly off the wall.
Don't want to be tardy because we may not catch up!  newspaper 
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Post by One Wonders on Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:12 am

Freckles wrote:IIRC, the evidence for the trial crosses MANY state lines as there are witnesses (not just the mistress) who BB tried to hire for murder from other states.  This is going to be an intense case.  Lots of evidence and it will be intertwined...

I wonder how many state attys there will be.... Specialists?  Of interest, I read recently, BB was into the child porn. Wonder if that will be broached. I had read it was from the computer. That is the main reason I am opposed to BB having computer access--- he abused his rights previously by looking at child porn on the computer and then by committing illegal acts with the computer...

Another wow, cuz I didn't know that he tried to hire other hit men out of state. Good, cuz this will just bolster the case against him to put his worthless flesh into prison for the rest of it's life.

I have no doubt in my mind that he was into child porn. Remember a little girl relative accused him of molestation?

I also hope this trial isn't put off for a couple of years. However the state does seem to have their ducks in a row to go forward on March 3rd. Hope the defense doesn't through a wrench in there to delay it any further.

I feel really good about Jane and her loved ones getting the justice they seek.
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