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Post by CuriousPortlander on Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:10 am

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Maringa: recommends house arrest. He also recommends OP spend 16 hours a month doing community service. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
3:04 AM - 13 Oct 2014

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Maringa says Oscar Pistorius should attend workshop on how to handle negative emotions, trauma counseling, law courses @eNCAnews
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Maringa recommendations: OP should not commit any further crime and abstain from the use of drugs and alcohol. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:20 am

Live blog from:  http://www.enca.com/oscartrial

Nel cross-examines:

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Nel stresses that #OscarPistorius fired 4 shots and knew someone was behind door. Maringa, after some confusion, agrees.
3:11 AM - 13 Oct 2014


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Nel says Maringa has misread the judgment. "You have based your recommendation on a judgment that you have got wrong." @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Nel: The court found that the accused armed himself and walked down the passage with the intention to use the firearm. #Pistorius
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(My notes:  Witness says the accused had no intention to shoot.  Nels says he's wrong.)


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You're wrong, says Nel again, arguing that Maringa based his recommendation on misreading of #OscarPistorius verdict.
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Nel says Maringa has not applied his mind to the seriousness of the crime at all. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Maringa recommends that Oscar Pistorius be given three years of correctional supervision @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Nel: Three years is "shockingly inappropriate" for what happened. Maringa: He will not go as he wishes. He will have to ask permission.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:57 am


And we're done with Maringa. Now Peet Van Zyl, #OscarPistorius manager, is called to the stand.
3:27 AM - 13 Oct 2014


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Roux want to talk about "what's left of his career" and OP's charity work. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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(My notes:  they are going over a 70+ page document reviewing all of OP's charity work)

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:03 am



Court in recess for lunch; will resume at 2 p.m. (1 hour)

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:54 am

Sorry. They took a tea and then lunch and I took a nap, a very long nap....

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:56 am

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Nel: Three years is "shockingly inappropriate" for what happened. Maringa: He will not go as he wishes. He will have to ask permission.



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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:01 am

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:02 am

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Nel stresses that #OscarPistorius fired 4 shots and knew someone was behind door. Maringa, after some confusion, agrees.
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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:04 am

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Gerrie Nel cross-examines. "He is a candidate for correctional supervision, nothing more."

Maringa: Yes. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:07 am

Maringa was a Def witness:


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Maringa says Oscar Pistorius should attend workshop on how to handle negative emotions, trauma counseling, law courses @eNCAnews


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Maringa recommendations: OP should not commit any further crime and abstain from the use of drugs and alcohol. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:31 am

Found this in the comment section:

" Uppsala 1 hour ago

Apparently he was on the phone to his ex-girlfriend for 9 minutes before he killed Reeva"

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial

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Maybe, now we know a bit about the unshared phone calls OP placed.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:42 am

Thank you Freckles and CP for all the updates!  
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:45 am

Oscar Trial: Pistorius should receive 3 years correctional supervision

South Africa
Monday 13 October 2014 - 1:03pm
by  Gill Gifford


PRETORIA – Oscar Pistorius should be sentenced to three years of correctional supervision and required to do 16 hours of community service each month as a fitting punishment for killing Reeva Steenkamp.

This was the finding of Correctional Services Department official Mashaba Maringa, the social worker who drew up the sentencing recommendations for the North Gauteng High Court.

Maringa said he was aware that Pistorius had lost out on career opportinuties after he shot his girlfriend on 14 February 2013 and was currently living off his savings.

Maringa said if Pistorius was given house arrest rather than a prison sentence, he would be able to correct his conduct with the resources available to him.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:51 am

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At Oscar Pistorius’s Sentencing Hearing, Descriptions of a ‘Broken Man’

By ALAN COWELL  OCT. 13, 2014


Oscar Pistorius, who was found guilty last month of killing his girlfriend, returns to court on Monday for a sentencing hearing. Credit Pool photo by Siphiwe Sibeko

LONDON — Oscar Pistorius, the disabled South African athlete found guilty a month ago of killing his girlfriend, returned to a Pretoria courtroom on Monday as his lawyers began a new struggle with prosecutors over the severity of the sentence he should face.

Seeking leniency from Judge Thokozile Matilda Masipa, Mr. Pistorius’s defense team called witnesses who described him as “a broken man” and said his punishment should be limited to house arrest and community service — penalties described by the prosecution as “shockingly inappropriate.”

And, as throughout the trial, the latest hearings revolved around the dual persona depicted by the defense and the prosecution: on one hand, a remorseful, contrite figure traumatized by his own actions; on the other, an egotist who snuffed out an innocent life.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:02 am

13 October 2014 Last updated at 09:17 ET

Oscar Pistorius community service call angers prosecutor (Video)

South African athlete Oscar Pistorius should not go to jail over the killing of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, his sentencing hearing has been told.

A probation officer appearing for the defence said Pistorius should serve house arrest and community service.

Prosecutor Gerrie Nel described the suggestion as "shockingly inappropriate".

Pistorius was found guilty of the culpable homicide of Ms Steenkamp last month - but was cleared of murder.

The decision was criticised by the victim's family.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:17 am

Oscar Pistorius: defence calls for three years' house arrest instead of jail

State correctional officer recommends that Oscar Pistorius be sentenced to house arrest and 16 hours' community service a month for killing Reeva Steenkamp


By Erin Conway-Smith, Pretoria
1:07PM BST 13 Oct 2014


Oscar Pistorius should be sentenced to three years' house arrest and community service, rather than going to jail, a correctional services officer has recommended during sentencing proceedings for the South African double-amputee sprinter.

Joel Maringa, who appeared as a witness for the defence, said Pistorius should perform two eight-hour shifts of community service per month, which would involve cleaning a museum and other tasks. Mr Maringa told the court: "What we are doing is to reform him to make a suitable, responsible citizen."

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Prosecutor Gerrie Nel, who argued with Mr Maringa over the details of Judge Thokozile Masipa's judgment and the facts of the case, called the recommended sentence "shockingly inappropriate".

"You have not applied your mind to the seriousness of the crime at all," Mr Nel said
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:28 am



Oscar Pistorius Sentencing: Watch Live

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Streamed live on Oct 13, 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjJRQi7OIWo&feature=youtu.be&a

(Prosecution cross examination of Joel Maringa, the State correctional officer who is recommending house arrest for Oscar Pistorius)
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:42 am

Oscar Pistorius a 'Broken Man,' Psychologist Testifies



ABCNews LIEZL THOM

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PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA -- The charges against Oscar Pistorius - and the relentless media attention - have robbed the double-amputee sprinter of the opportunity to mourn the death of girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, his personal psychologist testified as the sentencing phase of his trial began.

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Dr. Lre Hartzenberg says Pistorius has still not been able to reach a stage of acceptance and healing following the 2013 shooting.

"We are left with a broken man who has lost everything. He's lost his relationship with Reeva Steenkamp, he's lost his moral and professional reputation. He's lost his friends. He's lost his career," Hartzenberg said. "On an emotional level, his self-perception and self-worth have been damaged."

When Hartzenberg called Pistorius a "broken man," the Olympian became tearful in court.

Prosecutor Gerrie Nel countered by asking the psychologist about Steenkamp's relatives.

"Would you not expect a broken family?" Nel asked
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:05 am

NPA aims for 'harshest punishment' for Oscar

SOUTH AFRICA | Monday 13 October 2014 - 12:10pm | by  Lenyaro Sello


Reeva Steenkamp’s mother June is seen arriving at the North Gauteng High Court on 13 October 2014 ahead of the sentencing arguments in the Oscar Pistorius trial. Source: eNCA / Lenyaro Sello

PRETORIA - The National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) says it will argue for the harshest sentencing for Oscar Pistorius this week.

“Our duty is to make sure that when we ask for sentence that we ask for the harshest sentence possible – and we will certainly do the same in this matter,” said NPA spokesperson Nathi Mncube.

“It will be a sentence that will be befitting the crime – the severity of the offence and we know that he was convicted of culpable homicide but still someone lost her life in a very gruesome manner and we think that obviously deserves the harshest sentence possible,” he added.

Sentencing week has begun in the North Gauteng High Court with Pistorius’ therapist already testifying in his defence.

Reeva Steenkamp’s parents, June and Barry, are in court as well as members of  the African National Congress Women’s League (ANCWL) members who have been supporting the family through the trial.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:23 am

Oscar Pistorius sentencing: RECAP after Blade Runner appeared in court facing jail for killing Reeva Steenkamp

Oct 13, 2014 13:29  | By Sam Adams

Pistorius appeared at the High Court in Pretoria for the first day of sentencing. A judge will decide whether he is jailed for culpable homicide or be allowed to walk free

That's it for today. Court has been stood down until tomorrow. The sentencing is due to restart at 8.30am UK time.

To recap on today's events in court:

Oscar Pistorius arrived at Pretoria High Court this morning for a sentencing hearing that will determine whether he serves jail time for the negligent killing of his girlfriend, or walks out a free man.

A stony-faced Pistorius stared straight ahead as police officers escorted him into the court building.

Psychotherapist says Pistorius wept during their sessions

Pistorius psychologist says athlete is a "broken man" as sentencing hearing begins

He declined to answer questions from the scrum of reporters but greeted his family inside the court with smiles and hugs.

After a six-month, on-off trial that captivated South Africa and millions more around the world who admired Pistorius as a symbol of triumph over physical adversity, opinion is starkly divided on the eventual outcome.

A non-custodial sentence would be likely to spark public anger, fuelling a perception among black South Africans that, 20 years after the end of apartheid, wealthy whites can still secure preferential justice.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-recap-after-4428838#ixzz3G2SpvqQs[/b]
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:24 pm

Oscar Pistorius is a 'broken man' and could get 15 years in jail as he appears in court for sentencing over Reeva Steenkamp killing

. Several days of testimony expected before judge reaches decision
. Pistorius could get maximum sentence of 15 years in prison
. Paralympic athlete was convicted of manslaughter during trial last month
. Pistorius shot his girlfriend four times on Valentine's Day last year  
. Athlete described as showing 'genuine remorse and pain' over killing


By Pa Reporter

Published: 03:19 EST, 13 October 2014  | Updated: 11:57 EST, 13 October 2014


Oscar Pistorius arrives in court in Pretoria, South Africa for sentencing over the death of Reeva Steenkamp

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The third witness of the day was Pistorius' former manager Peet van Zyl, who talked about the athlete's charitable work and that the likes of Sebastian Coe, Sir Bobby Charlton had asked for his help in the past.

He produced a document reported to be more than a 100 pages long on Pistorius' charity work, which led to the prosecution requesting to stand the matter down so that they had time to study the report.

Judge Masipa assented and court was adjourned until 9.30am (South Africa time) on Tuesday.

Earlier Hartzenberg's testimony - characterised by the chief prosecutor as unbalanced - was part of an effort by the runner's legal team to persuade Judge Thokozile Masipa that Pistorius was remorseful and had suffered emotionally and materially for what he said was an accident.  

~Snipped~

Dr Hartzenberg, who described herself as an expert in trauma counselling, said she first met Pistorius on February 25 last year, 11 days after the death of Ms Steenkamp, and had been counselling him since.

But prosecutor Gerrie Nel criticised her findings, saying Pistorius would likely have the chance to rebuild his life.

Responding to Dr Hartzenberg's description of a broken man, Mr Nel asked the psychologist about Ms Steenkamp's family.

'Would you not expect a broken family?' he asked, saying her father Barry had suffered a stroke as a result of the killing of his daughter.

Mr Nel said Pistorius also had the opportunity to return to his life and his track career. 'We are now dealing with a broken man, but he is still alive,' the prosecutor said.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:05 pm



Reeva Steenkamp

Born: Aug 19, 1983 · Cape Town, South Africa
Died: Feb 14, 2013 · Pretoria, South Africa

On 14 February 2013, Reeva Steenkamp was shot and killed by Oscar Pistorius at his Pretoria home.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:09 pm

LIVE STREAM

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial

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Watch live: Oscar Pistorius finds out his sentence for shooting Reeva Steenkamp

Oscar Pistorius returns to court for sentencing following his conviction for culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. Live here from 8.30am BST


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10668819/Watch-live-Oscar-Pistorius-finds-out-his-sentence-for-shooting-Reeva-Steenkamp.html
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:21 pm

Oscar Pistorius’ sentencing starts as the defense witnesses are cross-examined, pushing for community service rather than jail time



13 Oct, 2014
by Gerhard Jacobs in NEWS


Gerrie Nel back in full swing as he lays into Barry Roux’s witnesses like only he can.

As day one of Oscar’s sentencing gets underway, it’s clear that Roux’s team is buttering Judge Masipa, so as to rule on their preferred outcome; community service.

Witnesses called in defense of Oscar Pistorius seem to be his biggest fans right now. Painting a picture of a kind, victimised and broken man with a burning desire to be involved in charitable work. That’s how Dr. Lore Hartzenberg and Oscar’s manager Peet van Zyl portrayed the convicted criminal. The third defense witness Joel Maringa of the department of social services, seems to believe that house arrest and community service would be sufficient punishment for a man convicted of culpable homicide.

While the defense chucked out one pro-Oscar witness after the other, Gerrie Nel, true to form, batted and badgered them to the point of where some could hardly answer his questions. The sentencing will continue tomorrow.

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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:11 pm

The reported "charity" work from OP:

This is inappropriate for "punishment" as it is also self serving for OP by keeping his face out in the public; he is being rewarded.

How much of the charity work OP did in the past were TERMS OF CONTRACT for ENDORSEMENT and repayment by assorted endorsing companies???? You can say, for example, Miss America showed up at a charity benefit for abused women but the truth is it was WRITTEN INTO HER CONTRACT for her to be as assigned charity benefits.

IMO, OP has the same design.
He was prepaid with endorsements for doing community or charity services....

Nel needed to nail OP on this and he failed to!
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Post by Freckles on Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:12 pm

IF he gets off, can OP counter-sue the State or/and Reeva's family for destruction of his career?
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:29 pm

Freckles wrote:IF he gets off, can OP counter-sue the State or/and Reeva's family for destruction of his career?

Hi Freckles,

I don't believe so, he killed Reeva and he was found guilty of culpable homicide. There is no mandatory sentence for manslaughter in South Africa, the judge has total discretion regarding the punishment that will be imposed.  He did that to himself, he destroyed his career when he killed Reeva in a fit of rage. I don't believe the intruder scenario, it looks like the judge bought it, hook, line and sinker. She is either very naïve or the SA's judicial system is very corrupt. Pistorius should be counting his "lucky stars", the judge has been "extremely lenient" and "very tolerant" of his theatrical tantrums.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:29 pm

'Shockingly inappropriate' sentence suggested for Oscar Pistorius after culpable homicide conviction

A social worker suggested a sentence for the Blade Runner — who was found guilty of culpable homicide in the Valentine's Day 2013 shooting death of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp — should be janitorial work for two days a month for three years. But prosecutor Gerrie Nel said the 'destroyed' athlete needs to have a punishment that better reflects the seriousness of his crime.

BY  BRENDEN NEL  /  NEW YORK DAILY NEWS / Monday, October 13, 2014, 10:36 AM

Oscar Pistorius should mop floors two days a month for the next three years to pay for killing his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, a state official testifying for the defense recommended Monday.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:39 pm

Ayala Maurer-Prager @A_MaurerPrager   ·  5 h  

#OscarPistorius may now be a "broken man," Mr Psychologist, but #ReevaSteenkamp is still a dead woman. Broken men heal. Dead women don't

https://twitter.com/A_MaurerPrager
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:55 pm

Sarah Benton ‏@sarahbenton  · 6h

Defence '#OscarPistorius has lost everything, lost his love.' Er, yeah that's what happens when you shoot them. #soridiculous

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:06 pm

'Pistorius Lives To Love Again. Reeva Is Dead'

The athlete is reminded that while he claims to have "lost everything", he still has his life - unlike Reeva Steenkamp.



Alex Crawford
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The cliche "what a difference a day makes" could not be more apt than when describing the dramatic reversal of fortune for Oscar Pistorius.

Twenty-four hours before shooting girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, the athlete had sponsorship deals worth millions, with many more in the pipeline and was revered around the globe.

His agent said that to call his future bright then "would be an understatement" and he was guaranteed financial security up to his planned sporting retirement.

A day later, his girlfriend was dead, his reputation was in tatters, he was arrested for murder and a return to his sporting career and therefore his livelihood was uncertain.

Now, his agent told the Pretoria court on the first day of Pistorius' sentencing hearing, he had no sponsorship deals at all.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:09 pm

Mona Benengeli @MonaBenengeli     ·  5h    

#OscarPistorius 10 to 77 years for killing a rhino; 15 years for a lion, but no minimum sentence for killing a woman http://bit.ly/1njIMfF

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:18 pm


EK Keratsis @EKeratsis · 19h 19 hours ago

Yeah, when you murder someone & get caught, you generally lose your career. Stop sniveling, you jackass psycho. #OscarPistorius.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:45 pm

Oscar’s manager faces grilling

October 14 2014 at 04:13am

Johannesburg -

State prosecutor Gerrie Nel will continue to cross-examine Oscar Pistorius's manager, Petrus van Zyl, on Tuesday in the athlete's sentencing proceedings.

Van Zyl told the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria on Monday about Pistorius's involvement with various charities and that the athlete was planning to retire in 2017. He said Pistorius lost all his endorsements after the shooting.

Van Zyl said he was negotiating new contracts for Pistorius up until 2017 and the last talks were on February 7, 2013 - a week before the athlete shot his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.

Nel asked for an early adjournment to go over the documents Van Zyl handed to the court.

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:36 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Mona Benengeli @MonaBenengeli     ·  5h    

#OscarPistorius 10 to 77 years for killing a rhino; 15 years for a lion, but no minimum sentence for killing a woman http://bit.ly/1njIMfF

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:56 am

Too good to have missed!




Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Nel moves onto doctorate awarded to OP. Van Zyl says it was for work OP did in supporting development of cheaper prosthetics @eNCAnews


David Smith ✔ @SmithInAfrica
Van Zyl: The honorary doctorate from the University of Strathclyde was for #Pistorius's work on prostheses. Nel: Have you read document?


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
Nel: the motivation for OP's honourary doctorate was based on his sporting career, not work he did on prosthetic legs.@eNCAnews #OscarTrial


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Roux interjects, asks Nel to read last four paragraphs of doctorate speech, then questions why he's leaving them out @eNCAnews


Liezl Thom @liezlthom
#OscarTrial #Nel points out nothing about charity work but about achievements. Wants to skip ahead but #Roux objects -must read last 4 par


andrew harding ✔ @BBCAndrewH
Nel has usefully reminded the court that celebrity/charity/business is a quid pro quo relationship. But not sure he's done more than that.


Phakamile Hlubi @phakxx
@eNCAnews Nel says the fact that OP referred disabled children to a doctor isn't a noteworthy achievement. #OscarTrial



Alex Crawford @AlexCrawfordSky
OscarTrial Van Zyl admits: it is commonplace for celebrities to be involv with charitable event...provides leverage


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
Nel came across some duplicated documents in the achievement and charities file. Van Zyl: I didn't compile this file. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial

David Smith ✔ @SmithInAfrica
Van Zyl: "I saw an opportunity where I could combine charity work with business and so I structured a deal for Mr #Pistorius."

Liezl Thom @liezlthom
#OscarTrial #OscarPistorius glares at the prosecutor who is trying to brush his charity work aside as self serving


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
Nel is really going into the details of OP's charity work to try show whether he used his own money. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:11 am

2014/10/14 04:10

WATCH: Oscar Trial: Nel challenges Pistorius's charity work Pretoria, 14 October 2014 - State prosecutor Gerrie Nel has challenged Oscar Pistorius’s manager, Peet van Zyl, that his client's work with charities was more a marketing tool than a good deed.


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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:14 am

Alex Crawford @AlexCrawfordSky
#OscarTrial Barry Roux turns to the runner's agent. He wants to disprove that the charity was only due to sponsors obligations

2014/10/14 04:10

WATCH: Oscar Trial: Nel challenges Pistorius's charity work Pretoria, 14 October 2014 - State prosecutor Gerrie Nel has challenged Oscar Pistorius’s manager, Peet van Zyl, that his client's work with charities was more a marketing tool than a good deed.


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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:15 am

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Van Zyl says some of OP charity work linked to sponsorship, also did ad hoc charity work and had established his own foundation @eNCAnews

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:16 am

Dianne Hawker @diannehawker


Van Zyl: Pistorius would often speak for free at schools. At corporate events, he would request payment.
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:18 am

ChelleBellion just now

No one mentions the tax relief Oscar would receive after donating sponsors money to charities. He wins all round


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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:24 am

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan

Roux seeking to show that - while some of OP charity work linked to his sponsorships - he also used his own money to support charity

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial

Comments by me:
Sorry but I was raised in that those who have much have much to give back. Until the 1900s, it was understood in America the wealthy had a DUTY to help provide for the less fortunate who made the wealthy what they were !!! So he gave to charity? Well, shout it down an empty well and keep your mouth shut. You did what you were SUPPOSED to do and the rest is between you and God. Shame to use it to feed your ego!!!!
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:28 am

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#OscarTrial Van Zyl is excused, Barry Roux now calls Annette Vergeer
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:31 am

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#OscarTrial Vergeer works on 'often 25 cases per month' as probation officer. She doesnt want her evidence televised

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High pitched, fast speaking, heavy accent.

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:33 am

Def witness:

Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan

Vergeer reads out her psycho-social report on Oscar Pistorius. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
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Vergeer refers to fact that condoms freely available in jail "and reality of HIV Aids no longer denied" @eNCAnews

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#OscarTrial Vergeer also blames media coverage as exacerbating this detrimental exposure. Jail wd make him financially dependant on State

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Vergeer: Oscar Pistorius is clearly a broken person. His sentence began on day he shot the deceased. @eNCAnews

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Exposure of #OscarPistorius to other inmates in public showers would have "a severe impact on him" says Vergeer.


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Vergeer recommends house arrest. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


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Vergeer suggests that Oscar Pistorius do community service at school for disabled children - "it'll mean the world to them" @eNCAnews

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rawn into harsh sentence due to public baying for tough sentence
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Vergeer says Pistorius has far better chance at rehabilitation outside of jail. Jail would have negative impact @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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Nel begins cross examination by asking Vergeer if defense is paying her. She confirms this. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
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#OscarTrial Vergeer says she saw OP for a 2 official consultations and two unofficial meetings and had phone consultations too
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#OscarTrial Nel wants to refer to a part of the judgement. Vergeer asks him to find it. Nel is flicking thro pages trying to. Vergeer smiles
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