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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:32 am

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:40 am

State proposes 10-year sentence for Oscar

17 October 2014 at 14:18 by Khatija Nxedlana -  The Prosecution in the Oscar Pistorius trial has proposed a sentence of 10-years for the convicted paralympian.


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The prosecutor says he is not convinced by the accused's remorse, saying he was only sorry that Reeva had died and not that he shot her.

He says the court should not fail the parents of the deceased, the killing of another human being is the most serious crime the court must deal with.

Masipa says the paragraphs in the defence's heads of argument regarding media reports about the trial will be disregarded this after Roux told the court how Pistorius had suffered because of what he called unfair publications.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:49 am

17 October 2014 Last updated at 08:06 ET

Oscar Pistorius trial: Athlete 'has no money', his lawyer says (Video)

Barry Roux: "He is not only broke but he is broken"

The sentencing hearing of Oscar Pistorius has heard that the South African athlete has no money left, as both sides' final arguments were made.

Pistorius was convicted of culpable homicide last month after shooting dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp last year, but was cleared of murder.

Judge Thokozile Masipa is expected to deliver the sentence on Tuesday.

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:25 pm

Thanks to Freckles and Alessandra for all the updates!

So if he has no money left, wouldn't it be better for him to go to prison?  No rent, no mortgage payment, free food...

Just sayin...
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:13 pm


Oscar Pistorius trial: 'society demands a prison sentence'

LAST UPDATED AT 13:38 ON Fri 17 Oct 2014

(This has a great deal of detail as to what was covered in the last court session)

Defence lawyer Barry Roux described Pistorius as a "victim" and urged the judge to return a community-based sentence. He pointed to the final judgment, which found that Pistorius had genuinely mistaken Reeva for an intruder, and said that no punishment can be worse than the experiences he has suffered in the last 18 months.

However, prosecutor Gerrie Nel said that the interests of society "demand a prison sentence" and that a minimum of ten years was required. He reminded the court of the "heart-wrenching" evidence given by Reeva's cousin Kim Martin. He ridiculed Pistorius for claiming that he was a victim and accused him of "shamelessly" using his disability as a mitigating factor.

Here is what we heard today:

Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/oscar-pistorius/53387/oscar-pistorius-sentence-judge-hears-final-arguments-live
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:25 pm


Pity poor Oscar Pistorius and Ched Evans – their CVs ruined, for ever

Forgive me for not sympathising with the killer and rapist whose careers might be compromised by their actions
The Guardian, Friday 17 October 2014 14.15 EDT


In the interests of total transparency, I should admit something right off the bat: I don’t have an enormous amount of sympathy for rapists and killers. I know! I’m weird like that, but there we are. I think it’s actually an allergy, because every time I hear someone expressing concern about how raping someone or killing someone affects the perpetrator’s career, I break out in extreme eye-rolling and increasingly hysterical laughter.

So this week has been playing absolute havoc with my allergies. First up, Oscar Pistorius, again. Pistorius has been back in court in South Africa for his sentencing for the killing of Reeva Steenkamp. Pistorius’s unflappable lawyer, Barry Roux, has argued that Pistorius, who pumped four dum-dum bullets into his girlfriend’s body, has suffered quite enough by now and should be spared prison. Roux said that Pistorius “lost a person he loved” – editorial interjection here: he “lost” her because he killed her – “[he lost] his self-respect, most of his friends, his career, all his properties, all his money. He’s lost everything.”

This, of course, is not strictly true: he hasn’t lost his life, unlike Steenkamp. But then, Roux added sorrowfully, “He has lost his sponsors.” Calling the world’s tiniest violin, your services are required!

Read more:  http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/17/oscar-pistorius-ched-evans

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:28 am

Former Judge responds to Barry Roux's attack on media

17 October 2014 4:09 PM

Former Zimbabwean High Court Judge Chris Greenland has responded to Advocate Barry Roux's claim that his client was victimised as a result of publicity and media coverage around his murder trial. Speaking to Gushwell Brooks on #OscarExtra he had this to say:

“I’m so relieved that Judge Masipa took issue with Roux’s FC on this complaint, lament about Oscar being victimised because of publicity and media coverage. I’m so glad that she’s given notice that she’s not going to have any regard to that. Because in my view that was objectionable in the extreme, to posit Oscar Pistorius as a victim because of publicity because of the transparency, because of the coverage to the world of this trial.”
— Chris Greenland

“It’s objectionable for a person involved with the law sworn to uphold the constitution and the laws of the country then to take that type of stance on transparency. Gerrie Nel correctly pointed it out, it’s in the nature, it’s fundamental to our system of justice that you have transparency.”
— Chris Greenland

“It’s a precious commodity. You can’t start complaining about it because it’s world wide, you should actually appreciate it and then to go further and claim that your client is a victim of that transparency is objectionable in my view. We need more transparency not less.”
— Chris Greenland

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http://702.co.za/articles/490/former-judge-chris-greenland-on-barry-roux-s-attack-on-media

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:49 am

8:14pm October 18, 2014

Pistorius accused of trying to use his disability to avoid prison (Video)

After waiting 267 days, Oscar Pistorius will soon learn his fate, and the prosecution says it is simple – the killer must be jailed.

Judge Thokozile Masipa is due to hand down her sentence on Tuesday, after the Blade Runner was found guilty of culpable homicide – known in Australia as manslaughter – over the fatal shooting of his girlfriend on Valentine’s Day last year.

“The minimum term that society will be happy with, will be 10 years imprisonment sentence.” Chief Prosecutor Gerrie Nel told the court.

But the blade runner’s lawyer remains convinced that Pistorius shouldn’t serve a single day behind bars for shooting Reeva Steenkamp dead.

“He’s lost everything. He was an icon in the eyes of South Africans,” defence lawyer Barry Roux said yesterday.

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http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/10/18/20/14/pistorius-accused-of-trying-to-use-his-disability-to-avoid-prison#VEPIFq7YQ8cuF0gI.99
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:17 am

@CuriousPortlander:

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Post by Freckles on Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:18 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:Thanks to Freckles and Alessandra for all the updates!

So if he has no money left, wouldn't it be better for him to go to prison?  No rent, no mortgage payment, free food...

Just sayin...
He is young.
Prison would be a good opportunity for him to re-evaluate his job skills as I am sure he did not think he would retire at age 30 and loaf about until he died.
He could teach track... and run the prison gym! Like a regular bloke, ya know...
and he could list it on his resume he had run the prison gym!
Then he could get a paying job at some private high school....
and earn a decent salary.

Yep.
He says he would have no future but I think that could be arranged...
Free room and board, free linen, free meds and free from taxes...
and when he got out, his uncle could give him back ALL the money OP gave to him when OP liquidated his properties to avoid a civil law suit for wrongful death from Reeva's folks....

We got your back, OP! Very Happy
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Post by Freckles on Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:21 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Pity poor Oscar Pistorius and Ched Evans – their CVs ruined, for ever

Forgive me for not sympathising with the killer and rapist whose careers might be compromised by their actions
The Guardian, Friday 17 October 2014 14.15 EDT


In the interests of total transparency, I should admit something right off the bat: I don’t have an enormous amount of sympathy for rapists and killers. I know! I’m weird like that, but there we are. I think it’s actually an allergy, because every time I hear someone expressing concern about how raping someone or killing someone affects the perpetrator’s career, I break out in extreme eye-rolling and increasingly hysterical laughter.

So this week has been playing absolute havoc with my allergies. First up, Oscar Pistorius, again. Pistorius has been back in court in South Africa for his sentencing for the killing of Reeva Steenkamp. Pistorius’s unflappable lawyer, Barry Roux, has argued that Pistorius, who pumped four dum-dum bullets into his girlfriend’s body, has suffered quite enough by now and should be spared prison. Roux said that Pistorius “lost a person he loved” – editorial interjection here: he “lost” her because he killed her – “[he lost] his self-respect, most of his friends, his career, all his properties, all his money. He’s lost everything.”

This, of course, is not strictly true: he hasn’t lost his life, unlike Steenkamp. But then, Roux added sorrowfully, “He has lost his sponsors.” Calling the world’s tiniest violin, your services are required!

Read more:  http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/17/oscar-pistorius-ched-evans

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:48 pm

Gia Nicolaides ‏@GiaNicolaides  · Oct 17  
#OscarPistorius Nel: the thing is that Oscar knew there was someone behind that door.

Gia Nicolaides ‏@GiaNicolaides  · Oct 17  
#OscarPistorius Nel: the main bathroom at Oscar's house did not have railings in shower, but he 'needs' them in prison?

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:55 pm

EWN Reporter @ewnreporter     ·   Oct 17    
#OscarTrial Roux: dismisses state’s claim that defence released scene re-enactment video - it was sold. BB

EWN Reporter @ewnreporter     ·   Oct 17    
#OscarTrial Roux insists the offer of money to Steenkamps post judgment was not intended to influence them on sentencing

EWN Reporter @ewnreporter     ·   Oct 17    
#OscarTrial Roux: the state says there are no rails in the shower - however there is a pedestal. BB

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:55 pm

Very interesting article ...

Judge Masipa, Oscar, race and gender

October 12 2014 at 10:04am
By Liepollo Lebohang Pheko and Tinyiko Maluleke

 White male entitlement still rules in law, write Liepollo Lebohang Pheko and Tinyiko Maluleke.

Despite noting Oscar Pistorius’s woeful showing as a witness and despite contradicting herself a few times in the ruling, Judge Thokozile Masipa nevertheless chose to believe a mixture of Pistorius’s defence versions, some of which in fact mutually cancelled each other out.

Judge Masipa’s shocking culpable homicide judgment instead of the widely expected murder verdict on the Pistorius case apparently rests on four astounding findings by her: Pistorius did not intend to murder Steenkamp; that he in fact did not intend to murder anyone; he did not intend to unlawfully kill anyone, and most crucially, from judge Masipa’s point of view, evidence to prove the opposite of the foregoing beyond reasonable doubt was not presented before the court.

Various respectable legal personalities have either expressed surprise at this verdict or gone further to express disagreement with it.

Many have suggested that the case is certainly appealable.

The legal reservations notwithstanding, for us the judgment raises even more fundamental social questions about the nature of violence against women in general and domestic violence in particular.

Read more:

http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/judge-masipa-oscar-race-and-gender-1.1763704#.VEQ_6iAo7mJ
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:03 pm

The sad irony inside Oscar court room

October 19 2014 at 09:04am


Mikey Schultz is seen during sentencing procedures of Oscar Pistorius earlier this week. File photo: Herman Verwey

Johannesburg - Strange days we live in. The scenes inside and outside Court GD at the North Gauteng High Court remind us of the irony of our times, the contradictions contained in the many steps and pitfalls that we endure as a nation that is a work in progress.

Inside the courtroom, one of our country’s famous sons, Oscar Pistorius, is fighting to stay out of jail after he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Pistorius, supported by his expensive legal team, prevailed over the prosecution, led by advocate Gerrie Nel, who failed in his attempt to get the world-famous athlete convicted of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine’s Day just over a year ago.

Inside court on Thursday, Pistorius sat in the dock, on a bench behind Nel, listening to the State’s witness testifying on why prisons are good enough to accommodate an individual with Pistorius’s disability should the court decide to hand down a custodial sentence.

Behind Pistorius, a man who a few years ago got away with murder sat behind Pistorius, right next to the athlete’s family, in an exercise of bravado, arrogance and some, such as Aimee Pistorius, may argue, provocation. Pistorius’s family were clearly upset by the acts of Mikey Schultz and his friends, known not to be friends of Pistorius and asked the police to remove them.

The irony of this scene is inescapable.

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http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/the-sad-irony-inside-oscar-court-room-1.1767189#.VERB0iAo7mJ
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:09 pm

Chequebook justice in SA

Biénne Huisman  @City_Press   |  19 October 2014 15:01

Justice is said to be blind,but that does not seem to be the case when large sums of money are involved

The high-profile murder trials of megawealthy defendants Oscar Pistorius and Shrien Dewani have brought to the fore the issue of “chequebook justice” in South Africa.

A common complaint the world over is that legal systems favour the rich who are able to afford top-notch lawyers and publicists to untangle them from their sticky situations.

So is there truth in the adage that justice is blind – and more pertinently, does it apply in South Africa?

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:20 pm

Dewani back in court

2014-10-19 22:51
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Shrien Dewani in court. (AP)

Johannesburg - The murder trial of British businessman Shrien Dewani is to resume after being postponed on Wednesday last week because one of the prosecutors had chickenpox.

Prosecutor Adrian Mopp was calling his witnesses to the stand in the Western Cape High Court without the assistance of his colleague Shareen Riley.

He had a rough time on Tuesday last week when his one witness's testimony was ruled irrelevant and another was made to look inept by the defence.

Mopp subsequently spoke to deputy Judge President Jeannette Traverso in chambers on Tuesday afternoon and she postponed the trial until Monday.

Dewani is accused of masterminding the murder of his wife Anni during their honeymoon in Cape Town on 13 November 2010 and offering local men R15 000 to carry out the hit.

The hitman serving a life sentence for shooting Anni died of a brain tumour on Saturday, the justice minister said, before he was due to testify in Dewani's trial for plotting the murder.

Xolilie Mngeni, 27, was diagnosed with having a brain tumour in 2011, shortly after being convicted of firing the shot that killed Anni Dewani.

He died in the hospital section of Goodwood Correctional Centre in Cape Town as his application for medical parole was rejected by Justice Minister Michael Masutha in June.


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Post by Freckles on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:40 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Very interesting article ...

Judge Masipa, Oscar, race and gender

October 12 2014 at 10:04am
By Liepollo Lebohang Pheko and Tinyiko Maluleke

 White male entitlement still rules in law, write Liepollo Lebohang Pheko and Tinyiko Maluleke.

Despite noting Oscar Pistorius’s woeful showing as a witness and despite contradicting herself a few times in the ruling, Judge Thokozile Masipa nevertheless chose to believe a mixture of Pistorius’s defence versions, some of which in fact mutually cancelled each other out.

Judge Masipa’s shocking culpable homicide judgment instead of the widely expected murder verdict on the Pistorius case apparently rests on four astounding findings by her: Pistorius did not intend to murder Steenkamp; that he in fact did not intend to murder anyone; he did not intend to unlawfully kill anyone, and most crucially, from judge Masipa’s point of view, evidence to prove the opposite of the foregoing beyond reasonable doubt was not presented before the court.

Various respectable legal personalities have either expressed surprise at this verdict or gone further to express disagreement with it.

Many have suggested that the case is certainly appealable.

The legal reservations notwithstanding, for us the judgment raises even more fundamental social questions about the nature of violence against women in general and domestic violence in particular.

Read more:

http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/judge-masipa-oscar-race-and-gender-1.1763704#.VEQ_6iAo7mJ
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"....Even more shocking is the judge’s apparent lack of appreciation of the racist logic in the basic Pistorius defence for the killing of Steenkamp. In short, the judge has failed to see the intersection of gender, race and power in the events that led up to and caused Pistorius to kill Steenkamp. ...."


" ...Effectively, the Masipa judgment means the judge blames Steenkamp for inserting herself behind the door where Pistorius’s (black) intruder ought to have been.

What the heck was she doing behind a locked toilet door when she ought to have been a passive “sleeping beauty” in his bed?

What was she doing in that space that belongs to (black) intruders and trespassers?

Masipa believes Pistorius was instinctively acting in self-defence – defence not against any material threat as no such evidence was put before her, but defence against the mythical black intruder.

In so doing she has inadvertently accepted that (black) intruders – real or invented – deserve to die, particularly when they insert themselves into white lives, white property and white male fears. ..... "

".....No man with that amount of gun knowledge shoots four bullets with that calibre of gun into a confined space whose dimensions he knows intimately, and still claims he intended to kill no one. ...."



".....Entitlement rests on the assumption that the perpetrators have no culpability in wrongdoing and no responsibility to make amends since their victims or their fears are always to blame. ..."


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Post by Freckles on Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:55 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Chequebook justice in SA

Biénne Huisman  @City_Press   |  19 October 2014 15:01

Justice is said to be blind,but that does not seem to be the case when large sums of money are involved

The high-profile murder trials of megawealthy defendants Oscar Pistorius and Shrien Dewani have brought to the fore the issue of “chequebook justice” in South Africa.

A common complaint the world over is that legal systems favour the rich who are able to afford top-notch lawyers and publicists to untangle them from their sticky situations.

So is there truth in the adage that justice is blind – and more pertinently, does it apply in South Africa?

Read more:

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/chequebook%E2%80%89justice-sa/
From your link:

" ....  “The clever people who remain in prosecution often do so for moral reasons,” said Klatzow.

He said entry-level defence advocates charge at least R5 000 a day, while “half-decent” advocates get out of bed for up to R50 000 a day.

This makes Pistorius’ defence advocate Barry Roux’s daily charge of R35 000 – as reported by Afrikaans daily Beeld – sound fairly reasonable.

But, add to that the rest of Pistorius’ legal team – Kenny Oldwage at an estimated R24 000 a day and Brian Webber at R20 000 a day.

This adds up to R3.7 million over 47 days – thus far the duration of the Pistorius murder trial which is expected to wrap up at the North Gauteng High Court on Tuesday.

Forking out this small fortune may have paid off for Pistorius as he now faces a maximum prison sentence of 10 years for culpable homicide instead of 25 years for murder. He also stands the chance of being sentenced to correctional supervision at his uncle Arnold’s mansion in Waterkloof, Pretoria, which comes complete with a lake....."


" ....By contrast, Roux made about R1.645 million in just 47 days........"
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:12 am

Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  11h    

#OscarPistorius high-security single cell earmarked for the athlete - but which high-profile inmate could be his neighbor? EWN tomorrow. BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  19m    

#OscarPistorius EWN has learnt that a cell on a high-security floor at the hospital section has been identified for Pistorius. BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  18m  

#OscarPistorius the floor has just six cells and only one is currently occupied - by Czech fugitive Radovan Krejcir. BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  17m    

#OscarPistorius and Krejcir would be the only two inmates on the floor, and share a shower and toilet. BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  17m    

#OscarPistorius would benefit from the high-security appointed to secure Krejcir. There is limited access to this section of the prison. BB


Barry Bateman‏ @barrybateman     .  16m
 
#OscarPistorius would also have access to a bath (a major concern for his defence team). BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  15m  

#OscarPistorius would also have access to a bath (a major concern for his defence team). BB


Barry Bateman @barrybateman     ·  15m    

#OscarPistorius will be sentenced tomorrow - his defence wants house arrest, while the state has suggested 10yrs imprisonment. BB


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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:19 am

First on EWN: Pistorius & Krejcir might be neighbours in prison

EWN understands a cell has been prepared for Pistorius in the same section as the Czech fugitive
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An emotional Oscar Pistorius. Picture: Pool.

Barry Bateman | 44 minutes ago

PRETORIA – Eyewitness News understands a jail cell has been prepared for Oscar Pistorius at the Pretoria Central Prison, in the same section that houses Czech fugitive Radovan Krejcir.

Pistorius will be sentenced in the High Court in Pretoria on Tuesday.

He was convicted of culpable homicide last month for the 2013 Valentine’s Day shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.



The state wants him jailed for a decade while his defence has recommended house arrest and community service.

Eyewitness News has learnt that Pistorius will be sent to the most securely guarded section outside of C Max, if sent to prison on Tuesday.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:27 am

Radovan Krejcir trial postponed to next year

Thursday 16 October 2014 20:16

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Judge Colin Lamont has run out of patience because of the perpetual delays and postponements characterising the trial of Czech fugitive, Radovan Krejcir.

Krejcir and his co-accused will only be back in the dock at the earliest in June next  year. They face charges of dealing in drugs, attempted murder and kidnapping.

Delays were caused by trials within trials, counter charges against police officials and witnesses either not available or sick.

Krejcir was arrested last November. By the time the trial is set to resume in the middle of next year he will have been in custody for more than 18 months.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:53 am

Oscar Pistorius: A Victim Redefined

By sisandankoala

A victim: someone who is harmed, injured or killed as a result of a crime, accident or other event or action.



Anene Booysen was a victim. Anni Dewani was a victim. Reeva Steenkamp was a victim. Cynthia Joni was a victim. These are people were harmed, injured, and in the case of the former three killed, as a result of the actions of others.

But in recent days the word ‘victim’ seems to have taken on a new meaning, as the very assailants who victimised these people usurp this word to avoid facing the consequences of their actions.

A man kills a woman who is locked in a small toilet cubical, and when he is confronted with the brutality of the crime, and called to account, he doesn’t. Instead he plays the part of ‘a broken man who has lost everything’.

Another admits to assaulting an innocent domestic worker in broad daylight because he thought she was a prostitute. When people take to social media to express their outrage and disgust, he is taken aback, saying he can’t understand why he is being victimised.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:58 am

Jacaranda Newsteam ‏@JacaNews · 29m
Mhaga says a cell can only be prepared after a person has been sentenced to a direct sentence of imprisonment. #OscarPistorius

Jacaranda Newsteam ‏@JacaNews · 30m
Mhaga: It would irresponsible & unbecoming of us to claim that we've prepared a cell for someone who hasn't been sentenced. #OscarPistorius

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:53 pm



kalikrome ‏@Kalikrome  · 1h1 hour ago  
#oscarpistorius killed @reevasteenkamp, and as kim martin said so clearly, he needs to pay. in prison. not at home
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:00 pm

Pistorius siblings speak on eve of sentencing

By Robyn Curnow and Mariano Castillo CNN
October 20, 2014 -- Updated 1921 GMT (0321 HKT)



Johannesburg (CNN) -- On the eve of Oscar Pistorius' sentencing, some of his biggest supporters -- his siblings -- told CNN that the lives of everyone close to the trial have already been changed forever, no matter the outcome.

Pistorius, 27, is due to be sentenced Tuesday for culpable homicide and one weapons-related charge in connection with his fatal shooting of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.

"No one who's been close to the situation can just overcome it," Aimee Pistorius said. "It's something my brother will carry with him forever and ... regardless of what's happening now it's just a certain phase in a journey that will never end."

Aimee Pistorius was in the courtroom throughout the trial, and the first to come over and console her brother during breaks in the proceedings. She has also been quiet about the case, declining to speak to the media until now.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:08 pm

BBC News - Africa



Oscar Pistorius siblings: 'Truth twisted and manipulated'

20 October 2014 Last updated at 20:27 BST

The siblings of Oscar Pistorius have spoken on the eve of his sentencing for the culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's day 2013.

In the television interview, Carl and Aimee Pistorius speak of the burden of public exposure in the 20 months since the shooting.

Aimee Pistorius said that "her brother would carry this with him for the rest of his life".

Watch the video of Aimee Pistorius and Carl Pistorius' interview:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29694967?
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:45 pm

Oscar Pistorius: The D-Day this way comes

Greg Nicolson  South Africa
21 Oct 2014 12:00 (South Africa)



After 18 months, Oscar Pistorius and the family and friends of Reeva Steenkamp are set to find out whether he will go to jail for culpable homicide. In sentencing, the court will weigh a number of factors. But no sentence will fill the void he's created. By GREG NICOLSON.

Oscar Pistorius has always beat the odds. It's why we knew about him. Born with fibular hemimelia, both legs then amputated below the knee, he became a household name across the world not just because of his achievements, but what he had to overcome. Surmounting hardship: growing up as a regular kid, setting world records as a disabled athlete, winning medals at Paralympic games, competing in the Olympics, and beating a murder charge.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:50 pm



Legal experts are split on Oscar Pistorius' sentence

SABC Digital News
 

Published on Oct 20, 2014
Legal experts are split on Oscar Pistorius' sentence.. to be handed down on Tuesday morning. The state called for harsh punishment.
The defence is hoping for restorative justice. Legal experts say the paralympian is most likely to get off on a suspended sentence.

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Post by CuriousPortlander on Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:59 am


EXCLUSIVE: Reeva's sister pleads with judge to jail Pistorius for twenty years and asks 'why should disabled people get softer sentences?'

Published: 05:47 EST, 20 October 2014 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 20 October 2014

 

Reeva Steenkamp's sister has watched with growing disbelief as Oscar Pistorius's lawyers insist he deserves special treatment.

Day after day, as the Olympian's defence team demanded house arrest instead of jail for the shooting of his model girlfriend, community service instead of hard labour, Simone Cowburn waited for sense to prevail.

Now, however, she is deeply worried. Following almost a week of legal argument, the 49-year-old fears the judge has been swayed by Pistorius's highly paid legal team.

Because she did not have had the chance to appear in court, Simone is now making a deeply personal plea to Judge Thokozile Masipa: hand down a heavy prison sentence to show violence against women will not be tolerated and to show that disability should not result in a softer punishment.


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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:19 am

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial

Verdict is in this morning.
We are about an hour away from the start of the trial.
I sure hope the judge does speechify but just gets to the sentencing.

I am tired...

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:13 am

Uppsala 18 minutes ago

Good morning everyone!


(this is true) I had a dream in the night, I received a telephone call to tell me OP was unconscious; how bizarre.


I was also thinking about all the things that DIDN'T happen, where RS is concerned. No matter how unbelievable OP versions are the RS version (according to him) is even more unbelievable. The dead cannot speak, but Reeva has spoken with her silence. Her lack of conversation, her lack of sounds, her lack of blood curdling screams (heard by a witness who was ignored) She managed to get dressed in the dark, find her phone in the dark, go to the loo and lock the door without making a sound, the toilet had been flushed and her bladder was empty. Then when her hip was shattered and she collapsed on the floor, she made NO sound, when her arm was shattered, she made NO sound, then the shot to the head...well she made NO sound. Is any of this believable, because to find OP innocent of murder you have to believe it ALL. There were remnants of food found in her body, she must have gone downstairs and eaten something around 11 pm...that didn't happen either.


So what did really happen?

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:39 am

Main feed is frozen on vid pic and sound.
Youtube is badly breaking up.
May have to try to grab the vid once it is all over...

Gonna be a lot of upset people.
There are over 6 thousand watching on youtube.
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:43 am

This link is working well now:  http://www.enca.com/oscartrial
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:47 am

Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
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Masipa deals with the evidence lead in aggravation and mitigation of sentencing. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
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Masipa: Maringa highlighted accused's achievements as athlete and work in helping the disadvantage and disabled


Phakamile Hlubi @phakxx
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Maringa believed that OP would benefit from correctional supervision. He can do community work to make up


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
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Masipa also goes over Peet van Zyl's evidence. He testified about OP's charity work and loss of income.


9 thousand on youtube


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Now to prosecution, and Kim Martin, Reeva's cousin, who spoke for prosecution and urged Judge not to show leniency.
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:51 am

Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
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Masipa: The accused in 27 yrs old, a double amputee with no dependents. Currently not employed and has no income.


Dianne Hawker @diannehawker
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Masipa goes through Pistorius's personal circumstances.


Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
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Masipa: at age of 11 months, the accused had bilateral below the knee amputation

My comment:
Because of the judge reading from testimony by defense and now giving the pity pot to OP's physical disabilities, IMO, she is going to let him off! She is NOT focusing on the crime he committed but rather upon how helpless the def is... I feel sick as justice is defeated again.

Said she was not impressed by one of the def witness who used outdated info. (This is a toss off to the state....)
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Post by CuriousPortlander on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:53 am



Judge Masipa totally chewed out that female witness with 28 years experience who was so negative!  And was impressed with Modisa (?).  This is looking promising...

Fingers crossed...



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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:54 am

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Masipa: Modise came across as a candid witness. "I have not hesitation in accepting his evidence as true and reliable.


Said she was impressed with the Commissioner of the Prisons. Felt he was most credible.

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:55 am

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Judge Masipa totally chewed out that woman witness with 28 years experience who was so negative!  And was impressed with Modisa (?).  This is looking promising...

Fingers crossed...


The wit embarrassed SA in the eyes of the world and invited World Court to investigate. They did that @ 5 yrs ago and really ripped the conditions of the prisons...
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Good morning to you, too, Freckles!

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Freckles wrote:
CuriousPortlander wrote:
Judge Masipa totally chewed out that woman witness with 28 years experience who was so negative!  And was impressed with Modisa (?).  This is looking promising...

Fingers crossed...


The wit embarrassed SA in the eyes of the world and invited World Court to investigate. They did that @ 5 yrs ago and really ripped the conditions of the prisons...

She sure did!

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Masipa: would be a sad day for this country if impression created that one law for the poor and another for rich and famous @eNCAnews
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Judge says she felt unease about witness evidence placing "undue" emphasis on Pistorius vulnerability
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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:03 am

Based upon the murder, do you really think he will be held up as some great inspiration now?
I don't think so.

While he may have given to charity in the past, he is broke today.
He has no job.
What is the charity he MIGHT give?
No promise he WILL...


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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:06 am

He looks pissed off.

BTW, the shots he fired into the door?
He was using military shells.
He was NOT allowed to use Black Talons.
Even in America, it is against the law to use Black Talons.
From what I have learned, they are armor piercing....
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Freckles wrote:Nased upon the murder, do you really think he will be held up as some great inspiration now?
I don't think so.

While he may have given to charity in the pat\st, he is broke today.
He has no job.
What is the charity he MIGHT give?
No promise he WILL...

All good points!

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Post by Freckles on Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:10 am

Forgive me my emoting.
I get caught up in this stuff...
So sick of miscarriage of justice.
Money walks....
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Freckles wrote:Forgive me my emoting.
I get caught up in this stuff...
So sick of miscarriage of justice.
Money walks....

Oh, no...please, emote away! I agree with every point above.

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14 thousand watching just on youtube....https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2BJTpLEt7O7zPu-8lpEaye8Os6chwX8G&v=fxz4lahic10#t=1388
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