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Post by Nan11 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:40 pm

Randie wrote:Dear friends,  I haven't been on crime media for a while.  My daughter passed away last year at this time and I just don't feel like being on here right now.  I will again, I just need some time.  Randie
I'm so, so sorry to hear this, Randie.

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Randie wrote:Dear friends,  I haven't been on crime media for a while.  My daughter passed away last year at this time and I just don't feel like being on here right now.  I will again, I just need some time.  Randie

I'm thinking of you, Randie.  Take good care of yourself.  Hugs.
I second this.

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Post by Nan11 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:29 pm

Freckles wrote:Nan,
Re dogs: We had mixed breed medium sized sisters. The dominate dog was smaller than her sister but was a "scrapper"...and kept her sister in line. The dominate dog would order her sister to dig holes (and other naughty things).  If the submissive dog refused, she would get a nasty bite! Both dogs were very loyal to family. Out on walks and off leash, if danger was felt, both dogs would race back to protect the kids, etc. I don't relate to a dog not protecting...

Above, you posted the comment re a possible "bad marriage".
Did Amanda or DB make any comments re what they perceived the health of marriage was?


I find this a another odd case where the wife/gf is pregnant and is murdered. I wonder if there is some kind of syndrome or mental condition where a man is offended, goes off the deep end, because the woman is pregnant and for some reason, he can't deal with it???? shifty
BBM - Maybe I went a little too far with my adjectives.   Embarassed

If you haven't seen this video, though; give it a few minutes.  I don't think you will have to watch it all--it is an hour long.  I don't think their marriage was happy, but I could be making the wrong assumption.

(This is a little off topic to the reason for my comment, but notice how he likes to position his hand between his legs.  I think that is all I better say.)


In case you haven't got time to spend on the video, here is a link that discusses it.  This link is not my favorite because it makes it seem as though they got counseling and then everything was hunky-dory.  I personally don't think it happened that way.

Snipped quote:  Before the wedding, they had been dating long distance and had not really spent more than a few weeks together at a time.

"When you're dating and so in love you can forget about all the conflict or the things that might annoy you," Amanda said. "But once you get married those things become a really big deal."

They went to counseling and learned to communicate.
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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/11/12/pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-dies-being-shot-robber/75637162/

I'm still working on this point, so will try to add anything I come across which I find better supports my position.  I watched some of the videos when I first started following the case, but I was so confused trying to get the time line straight and everything, I didn't bother to take notes.  I will in the future.

One last thing--the video was recorded on October 18, 2015.

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I'm back in under edit because I came across the following picture and wanted to share it:



That's Mel with his head on Amanda's foot.  She typed in:  "Little Mel literally never leaves me."

I'm with you on "not relating to a dog not protecting".  And from the picture and Amanda's statement, we can be safe in thinking that they shared a very close relationship.


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Post by Nan11 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:26 pm

crimeq wrote:@Nan - I am on my way out so will respond more later.  However, I think it's GREAT that you added the photo above!  What a gorgeous shot and what a beautiful, happy baby.  I agree with you (I think it was you) who posted that he looked very sad in the Christmas pic that Davey posted of him.  He looked like a confused and sad little boy Sad
My heart just breaks for Weston.

Regarding Meg, the nanny/babysitter--I have been looking around to see what I can find on her.  I really didn't come up with much, but I'm wondering if you already have everything I have found.  So, just to share and make sure we are all on the same page:

Okay, so here she is getting some water ready for him on Sunday, December 27, 2015.



Then I have:

She moved from South Carolina to live with Davey and Amanda in Indianapolis sometime during the past summer; possibly sent by the leader of Davey's "mother" church; possibly acted as Weston's nanny.  She moved out of Davey and Amanda's home about 10 weeks before Amanda's murder, but it is unclear if she returned to South Carolina or got her own place in Indianapolis.

For 5 years, she had been an "intern" for Davey; so, this would have been in South Carolina before the planting of Resonate Church in Indianapolis.  (Do you know about the tweet she received from Davey asking her to buy him a jockstrap as a sermon illustration?)

She likes Davey's phrase:

 This is from her Etsy page.

Anyway, I thought it might be interesting to compare notes.  
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Post by Freckles on Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:34 pm

^^^^ From Nan above:
"...."When you're dating and so in love you can forget about all the conflict or the things that might annoy you," Amanda said. "But once you get married those things become a really big deal."

They went to counseling and learned to communicate. End
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/11/12/pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-dies-being-shot-robber/75637162/ ...."

Well, that does say it all!
Do you think Meg was "acquainted" with DB or Amanda PRIOR to the marriage?
If so, what was her interaction and with whom?
(I am trying to figure out if she had been a gf of Amanda or a past flame for DB...)
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Post by Freckles on Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:39 pm

Link from above:
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/11/12/pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-dies-being-shot-robber/75637162/

"...."We had a really great honeymoon," Amanda said in the video of the Oct. 27 question-and-answer style sermon. "We were so in love, taking pictures. Then, literally, the next day he went to work. It was like honeymoon over."..."

Whoa!
Do we know what year they were married?
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Post by Nan11 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:02 pm

Freckles wrote:^^^^ From Nan above:
"...."When you're dating and so in love you can forget about all the conflict or the things that might annoy you," Amanda said. "But once you get married those things become a really big deal."

They went to counseling and learned to communicate.  End
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/11/12/pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-dies-being-shot-robber/75637162/  ...."

Well, that does say it all!
Do you think Meg was "acquainted" with DB or Amanda PRIOR to the marriage?
If so, what was her interaction and with whom?
(I am trying to figure out if she had been a gf of Amanda or a past flame for DB...)
Freckles wrote:Link from above:
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/11/12/pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-dies-being-shot-robber/75637162/

"...."We had a really great honeymoon," Amanda said in the video of the Oct. 27 question-and-answer style sermon. "We were so in love, taking pictures. Then, literally, the next day he went to work. It was like honeymoon over."..."

Whoa!
Do we know what year they were married?
Some of the other commenters might know more about this than I do, and I'm hoping they will jump in!  

I have a little bit that might offer some clarification, though.

I believe it is entirely likely that she knew both Amanda and Davey before they married; although, she actually worked with Davey. I'll add this screenshot of a somewhat shocking tweet, and keep in mind that it refers to something that happened 5 years ago. (Jan. 19, 2010)



Judging from the above tweet, we know she was his "intern" in or near the year 2010.  Next, I can confirm that:  " . . . Davey spent 4 years on staff at NewSpring Church in Anderson, SC . . . "; plus, " . . . Davey and Amanda Blackburn moved to Indianapolis in January of 2012 with a dream and a calling to start a life-giving church . . . ".
http://resonateindianapolis.com/our-story/

I read somewhere that she was his intern for approximately 5 years, so that makes me think she was his intern right up until Amanda and Davey moved to Indianapolis to "plant" their church in 2012.

Now we have Davey stating the following in one of his statements:  " . . . one thing I've learned from Amanda in the 10 years we were together . . . "
http://fox59.com/2015/11/23/impd-makes-arrests-in-amanda-blackburn-case/

If my math is correct that puts Davey and Amanda beginning to date around 2005.  I believe they were married on August 1, 2008. I'm not at all clear on where Amanda was living prior to 2008--Anderson, SC or Elkhart, IN--although Elkhart, IN is my guess.
http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/crime-fire-courts/2015/11/12/Amanda-Blackburn-daughter-of-First-Baptist-Church-in-Elkhart-s-Phil-and-Robin-Byars-has-died-coroner-s-office-confirms.html

However, from their marriage in 2008 until 2012 when they moved as a couple to Indianapolis, Amanda would have lived in Anderson, SC where Davey was on the staff at NewSpring Church with Meg as his intern.

I apologize for rambling here, but I'm just working it out myself.  Embarassed
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Post by Nan11 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:39 pm

This is something that I don't think we have discussed yet.

I must confess that I didn't pick this up during any of the several times I read through the affidavit; but, I came across the tweet below:



I think the below quote from the affidavit is where the person tweeting obtained her information:

Snipped Quote Page 14:  At 8:22 A.M., November 10, 2015, David Blackburn called 911 reporting that he found his wife, Amanda Blackburn, injured and unconscious on the living room floor of their home at 2812 Sunnyfield Court.  Indianapolis Fire Department Engine 12 responded to the scene.  At 8:30 A.M., IFD 12 requested the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department to respond for a possible assault.  At 8:44 A.M., Officers Richard Crosby and Larry Crowe arrived as Medics were carting Amanda Blackburn from the home.  Amanda Blackburn had sustained severe head trauma.  Sergeant T. Michael Wilson and Officer Carl Grigsby cleared the residence.  No one else was found in the home, except for Blackburn’s year old son.  End
http://www.scribd.com/doc/291143533/Affidavit-of-Probable-Cause-in-Amanda-Blackburn-Case

This is a big read flag--a big one--if the wording is clear.  Any husband who arrived home to find his wife in the condition that he found Amanda in, would immediately run up the stairs to check on their helpless 15 month old son, wouldn't they?

Does anyone else think that?  Or, does anyone think it would be "more normal" to just drop down beside your wife and call 911--trying to do all you could for her?

But surely he at least mentioned Weston to law enforcement.  It doesn't read like he did, but maybe that's just the way it was typed?
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Post by Freckles on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:27 pm

^^^
DB is so self centered nothing surprises me re his failure to even check on his little son.
His attitude re others, especially his child, makes me wonder if he pulled a Scott Peterson. Perhaps, he resented the attention Weston received from others, including Amanda, and could not bear the thot of a second child taking even more attention HE felt HE deserved.

I have read so many of these cases where the man can't seem to handle or cope with the attention his OWN child is receiving (or he fears the unborn child will receive said attention) and the man then kills the wife/gf. I wonder if there is a special name, special type of mental illness like there is with Munhausen??? I dunno...Is he just mentally ill with perhaps being a psychopath or is there something deeper? Something that is the trigger?
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Post by Nan11 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:44 pm

Freckles wrote:^^^
DB is so self centered nothing surprises me re his failure to even check on his little son.
His attitude re others, especially his child, makes me wonder if he pulled a Scott Peterson. Perhaps, he resented the attention Weston received from others, including Amanda, and could not bear the thot of a second child taking even more attention HE felt HE deserved.
Great points!

I'm still thinking it is a "sure" sign that he knew Weston was alive and well.

Freckles wrote:I have read so many of these cases where the man can't seem to handle or cope with the attention his OWN child is receiving (or he fears the unborn child will receive said attention) and the man then kills the wife/gf.  I wonder if there is a special name, special type of mental illness like there is with Munhausen??? I dunno...Is he just mentally ill with perhaps being a psychopath or is there something deeper? Something that is the trigger?  
I've never heard it named, but it would deserve one!

It's interesting that you mention a "trigger."  In this case, that could be a possibility.  Mr. Hyatt blogged about "something" [unknown what] that Davey did when he was young that was so serious it cause his family to move--if I'm recalling everything correctly.  I don't know where he got that from, though.

If I ever come across more regarding this, I'll post it.
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Post by Nan11 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:55 pm

There was supposed to be a pretrial hearing for the three alleged murderers of Amanda last Friday, Jan. 8.  I have searched everywhere, but found not a mention of it.

Finally, just by accident, I came across the link below.  LOL

They must have had the hearing, because now we know another hearing has been scheduled for March 4/16.  So that's all we get, I guess--it wasn't even worthy of hardly a mention?  

 Quote:  Michael Leffler, communications specialist with the Marion County Prosecutor's Office, told CP that another pretrial hearing for Taylor and Watson, who have pleaded not guilty in the Amanda Blackburn case, was set for 1:30 p.m. on March 4 during a pretrial hearing last Friday.  End
http://www.christianpost.com/news/amanda-blackburns-killer-murdered-man-10-dollars-raped-woman-gunpoint-154638/
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Post by Freckles on Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:26 am

Do we have anything on the families?
Have either of the parents spoken out?
Was Amanda close to her parents, sibs?
Any comments from DB's family?
Perhaps, at the funeral???

This is so cold, so odd.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:34 am

Freckles wrote:Do we have anything on the families?
Have either of the parents spoken out?
Was Amanda close to her parents, sibs?
Any comments from DB's family?
Perhaps, at the funeral???

This is so cold, so odd.

About Amanda's funeral:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2571616/amanda-blackburn-funeral-2000-honor-pastors-slain-wife/
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Post by Alessandra_Deux on Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:48 am

RELATED ARTICLES:


Amanda Blackburn's Alleged Killer Murdered Man for $10, Raped Woman at Gunpoint

By Leonardo Blair , Christian Post Reporter
January 11, 2016|3:20 pm


(Photo: Resonate Church)

Editor's note: Court documents contain graphic details about the alleged crimes committed by suspects Larry Taylor and Jalen Watson.

Just days before he allegedly shot dead pregnant Indiana pastor's wife Amanda Blackburn on Nov. 10, 2015, prosecutors say Larry Jo Taylor Jr., 18, shot a Mexican in the head after robbing him of $10 and raped another woman at gunpoint.

In court documents filed in December and shared with The Christian Post on Monday, the Marion County Prosecutor's Office in Indianapolis charged Taylor and his accomplice Jalen Watson, 21, in a Nov. 3 burglary and rape.


Larry Taylor (L) and Jalen Watson (R) have been charged with the murder of Amanda Blackburn.

This crimes occurred exactly one week prior to the death of Blackburn, 28, who had moved to Indianapolis in 2012 to start Resonate Church with her husband, Davey Blackburn.

Taylor was charged with three counts of rape, burglary, theft, armed robbery, criminal confinement and auto theft, according to the document.

Watson was charged with burglary, theft, armed robbery, criminal confinement and auto theft. The stolen vehicle had "In God We Trust" license plates.

"The victim stated that she was in the shower when the suspects entered her apartment. After ordering her out of the shower she was taken at gunpoint into her bedroom where she was told to lay down on the floor on her stomach while still nude. She said she never left the spot until the suspects left her residence," according to the court documents.

The victim further stated that "while lying on the floor one of the suspects raped her while holding a handgun to the back of her neck."

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  Larry Taylor_Jalen Watson Rape Dec 2015



Read more:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/amanda-blackburns-killer-murdered-man-10-dollars-raped-woman-gunpoint-154638/

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Blackburn murder suspect charged in 2nd murder

Staff Reports
Published: December 29, 2015, 9:27 am  |  Updated: December 29, 2015, 7:01 pm



INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — One of the men accused in the death of Amanda Blackburn has been charged for the murder and robbery of another person in early November.

The Marion County Prosecutor’s Office charged Larry Jo Taylor Jr. with murder, felony murder and robbery resulting in serious bodily injury in connection to the robbery and death of Rolando Gonzalez-Hernandez on Nov. 4 in the 4500 block of Candletree Circle. Gonzalez-Hernandez was found next to his vehicle after being shot.

~Snipped~

Witnesses told investigators Taylor told them he robbed and shot someone at the same apartment complex where Gonzalez-Hernandez was found dead. Cell phone calls also placed him in the area at the time of the murder.

“It was scary it could of very well been my husband,” said Marie Madden. Gonzalez- Hernandez lived in the same complex as Madden. On the night of the murder, Madden’s husband complained about seeing a man in dark clothing walking around the parking lot looking into vehicles. Madden believes the man in dark clothing was Taylor.

Read more:

http://wishtv.com/2015/12/29/blackburn-murder-suspect-charged-in-2nd-murder/

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Blackburn suspects in court on separate home invasion, sexual assault charges

By Teresa Mackin
Published: December 22, 2015, 4:46 am  |  Updated: December 22, 2015, 2:13 pm



INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — The two men accused in the killing of the wife of an Indianapolis pastor returned to court Tuesday morning.

Jalen Watson and Larry Taylor Jr. face charges in a separate home invasion and sexual assault from Nov. 3.

Prosecutors say Watson and Taylor got into a woman’s west side apartment about a week before Amanda Blackburn’s murder. Court documents show it happened at the Westlake Apartments near Interstate 465 and Rockville Road.

Read more:

http://wishtv.com/2015/12/22/blackburn-suspects-in-court-on-separate-home-invasion-sexual-assault-charges/
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Post by Nan11 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:58 pm

Freckles wrote:Do we have anything on the families?
Have either of the parents spoken out?
Was Amanda close to her parents, sibs?
Any comments from DB's family?
Perhaps, at the funeral???

This is so cold, so odd.
I find it very, very cold, too.  Yes, we have heard a little from Amanda's parents and Davey's parents.  Both Amanda's father and Davey's father are pastors.

Amanda had a brother and a sister; I believe she was the youngest.  Supposedly, Amanda and her sister were very close.  If I have this correct--Amanda's sister's husband arranged the blind date between Davey and Amanda.  

Here is a video with clips of an interview with Amanda's father:



Here is one with clips from Amanda's brother:




It was also at Amanda's father's church where Davey gave the little "talk" at the end explaining that God had spoken with him that morning while he was showering.



Just below, is a link to two accounts from Amanda's sister--the first one about Weston's birth; the second one about Amanda's death.  Her choice to use several of the same sentences in each separate narrative strikes me as odd.

Snipped quote  July 28, 2014 : I was sleeping at my grandparent's house when I got the phone call. Amanda's water broke! It was 2:45 am, and Davey had informed me that Amanda had showered and was currently vacuuming the house just to make sure everything was perfect for when she brought the baby home. My grandma got up and we sat in the kitchen talking about Amanda and the excitement of getting to hold her new baby today! I drove so fast to make sure I was there.  End

Snipped quote  November 10, 2015 : I was sleeping at my grandparent's house when I got the phone call. Amanda was found unconscious in her home and now in critical condition at the hospital. It was 9:26 am and I threw on clothes and jumped in the car. I drove so fast to make sure I was there.  End
http://www.christianpost.com/news/the-heartache-of-amanda-blackburns-sister-i-talked-to-her-yesterday-in-heaven-150469/

Amanda's mother, father, brother, and sister each speak briefly in a short video played at Amanda's funeral.  Davey's father, mother and his grandfather also appear during the video segment.

The videos start at about 16:40 minutes in; and only last for about 6 minutes, if you want to watch:



I find the link below a good example of "cold".  It's actually about how Davey's Christmas was spent in South Carolina with his family, and links where you can donate to help "support" Davey and little Weston are given.

The picture below includes Davey's parents (center); and his younger brother (left).  I'm not sure if that is all he has for siblings, or not.  Also, I don't think the brother spoke at Amanda's funeral.  That's a little bit strange, maybe?
 
Snipped Quote:  For 51-year-old Dave Blackburn, pastor of NEXT Church in Brevard, the recent holiday season wasn't filled with the joy that typically overflows his family's cup.

Blackburn and his wife, Brenda, spent the holidays helping their son Davey grieve the loss of his pregnant wife, Amanda, after she was murdered by an intruder in the couple's home in Indianapolis, Ind.
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http://www.transylvaniatimes.com/story/2016/01/07/news/church-family-helps-pastor-grieve-brevard-nc/25788.html



In simply my own opinion, I find they are all busy protecting Davey's back and all show no real grief or feeling for Amanda.
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Post by crimeq on Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:33 pm

Re: Meg "interning" for Davey for 5 years - what exactly is an intern? I would think interning for a minister would be something leading to an eventual position as a minister, yet I haven't heard anything like that re: Meg - and 5 years is a long time (longer, now, since apparently she still helps him out as we saw with her getting water for him on the stage during his Christmas sermon). Perhaps it's not interning to follow into the ministry, but is an assistant of some kind ???

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Post by Nan11 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:28 pm

crimeq wrote:Re: Meg "interning" for Davey for 5 years - what exactly is an intern?  I would think interning for a minister would be something leading to an eventual position as a minister, yet I haven't heard anything like that re: Meg - and 5 years is a long time (longer, now, since apparently she still helps him out as we saw with her getting water for him on the stage during his Christmas sermon).  Perhaps it's not interning to follow into the ministry, but is an assistant of some kind ???
BBM--that is a good question.

An internship through NewSpring doesn't seem to fall under a "traditional" definition.

I came up with this link from 2008 tittled:  Want to be a NewSpring Intern:

Snipped Quote:  We’re looking for fun, college students (even if you don’t attend Clemson) that are sold out to the vision of NewSpring and want the opportunity to see what ministry life is really like.
. . .
The Fall program is 16 weeks long. We offer up to 10 positions with the chance to apply in eight different ministry areas.  End
https://tonymorganlive.com/2008/07/28/fall-internship-deadline-is-extended/

Following is a more recent link according to their calendars, but seems to have started around 2012/2013.  It appears more of an apprenticeship program presently and an enrollee gets to select something like a "major".

NewSpring College program:  (two years)
https://newspringcollege.com/program

FAQ page:  https://newspringcollege.com/questions

Other than indicating she most likely completed her "intern" program quite some time ago, nothing gives a clue as to what her duties were or are as she served or is currently serving Davey.  She seems to be rather stuck to him like glue, though, doesn't she?
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Post by Freckles on Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:50 am

Nan,
Looking at Amanda's family (as well as DB'S family) I feel sicker and more disgusted by the minute. Unreal families! While I believe in God, I don't place all my choices and responsibilities in my own personal life as a blame, excuse, or accusation against Him. He did give each of us a freedom of choice... and that is something these two families need to step up to the plate and own. Their own actions. DB: Just because you are feeling "horny" is no excuse to believe God has instructed you to act crudely and without thought to your partner. Grow a set and get accountable for your own choices!

Little Weston. I had hopes someone in the family would be able to give the love, guidance to this tyke. From the looks of it, it isn't there. Both these families are messed up. Seriously. Sad
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Post by Nan11 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:49 pm

Gordon has now been charged with two counts of murder in Amanda's death.  The murder charges were added yesterday, and he was in court for his "initial" hearing, today.  This is a very short article--I don't really understand why they are saying so little now.

Snipped Quote:  Diano Gordon had already been charged with burglary and theft, and now faces two counts of murder in the case. End
http://fox59.com/2016/01/14/third-suspect-charged-with-murder-in-death-of-amanda-blackburn/
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Post by Nan11 on Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:23 pm

Freckles wrote:Nan,
Looking at Amanda's family (as well as DB'S family) I feel sicker and more disgusted by the minute. Unreal families! While I believe in God, I don't place all my choices and responsibilities in my own personal life as a blame, excuse, or accusation against Him. He did give each of us a freedom of choice... and that is something these two families need to step up to the plate and own. Their own actions. DB: Just because you are feeling "horny" is no excuse to believe God has instructed you to act crudely and without thought to your partner. Grow a set and get accountable for your own choices!

Little Weston. I had hopes someone in the family would be able to give the love, guidance to this tyke. From the looks of it, it isn't there. Both these families are messed up. Seriously. Sad
I agree with everything mentioned here!

If the wicked evilness of the three young men allegedly involved in Amanda's murder wasn't making all their actions pale in comparison, I think we would see more of an interest from law enforcement.

With Master Davey prancing around on his stage saying how great it would be to Amanda's memory to welcome the three of them into his church, I find it all too much.

It makes me feel ill.  
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Post by crimeq on Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:23 pm

Nan said: "With Master Davey prancing around on his stage saying how great it would be to Amanda's memory to welcome the three of them into his church, I find it all too much."

To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy."

I'm so glad they have charged the third person in her murder; I wasn't sure they would since he hadn't entered the Blackburn house.

Scary looking dude, that one!

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Post by Freckles on Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:12 am

crimeq wrote:Nan said:  "With Master Davey prancing around on his stage saying how great it would be to Amanda's memory to welcome the three of them into his church, I find it all too much."

To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy."

I'm so glad they have charged the third person in her murder; I wasn't sure they would since he hadn't entered the Blackburn house.

Scary looking dude, that one!

"...To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy." ..."

awe Yep! They each look like misfits; however, DB is the worst. Amanda trusted him and he betrayed her. JMO
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Post by Nan11 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:59 pm

crimeq wrote:Nan said:  "With Master Davey prancing around on his stage saying how great it would be to Amanda's memory to welcome the three of them into his church, I find it all too much."

To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy."
Yes, and his reference to "crazy Davey" fits right in, too.  Personally, I find the mentor as much of an enigma as the student.  I do not see one with many principles there.

crimeq wrote:I'm so glad they have charged the third person in her murder; I wasn't sure they would since he hadn't entered the Blackburn house.

Scary looking dude, that one!
I agree.  I was a little bit happily surprised.  I'm thinking they may have gotten some DNA results back that maybe placed him inside Amanda's home.  Maybe not, though; I'm just not sure.

Yeah, he has some serious tats.  Freckles posted a great link on the Aaron Hernandez thread explaining some possible reasoning behind a person tattooing themselves up like this.




Gordon is 24 years old, and he was out on parole.  He had served only two years of a six year sentence.  For confirmation she video below:

At about 2:18 minutes in:   ". . . And the older defendant had actually had been convicted of a burglary; and convicted for six years in 2011.  He was let out in 2013 on probation.  He was on probation violation when he did this; or allegedly did this."




I can't resist adding the following.  The three of them are rather scary.  This image was captured by surveillance video at the first robbery of the morning of Nov. 10/15:



Below is a video of the lady discussing her feelings after realizing how close she had come death.  (Taylor wanted to shoot her, but the other two managed to change his mind.)

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Freckles wrote:
crimeq wrote:Nan said:  "With Master Davey prancing around on his stage saying how great it would be to Amanda's memory to welcome the three of them into his church, I find it all too much."

To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy."

I'm so glad they have charged the third person in her murder; I wasn't sure they would since he hadn't entered the Blackburn house.

Scary looking dude, that one!

"...To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy." ..."

awe  Yep! They each look like misfits; however, DB is the worst. Amanda trusted him and he betrayed her. JMO
I agree.  I feel Amanda was betrayed in the worst possible way.

They may be closer than we realize, though.  If you haven't seen the following yet, set aside a few minutes to read it because it is quite long.  I found it to be quite the eye opener.

Snipped quote:  "I’m about to tell you how NewSpring insiders attempted to corrupt my family, sabotage an adoption, destroy my career, and ruin my reputation. This campaign, which became the subject of a police investigation, was conducted with the knowledge and encouragement of NewSpring’s senior leadership."  End
http://www.pajamapages.com/holy-rage-at-the-spring-2/
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Post by crimeq on Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:42 pm

Nan11 wrote:
Freckles wrote:

"...To quote his mentor minister, "Something's not right with that boy." ..."

awe  Yep! They each look like misfits; however, DB is the worst. Amanda trusted him and he betrayed her. JMO
I agree.  I feel Amanda was betrayed in the worst possible way.

They may be closer than we realize, though.  If you haven't seen the following yet, set aside a few minutes to read it because it is quite long.  I found it to be quite the eye opener.

Snipped quote:  "I’m about to tell you how NewSpring insiders attempted to corrupt my family, sabotage an adoption, destroy my career, and ruin my reputation. This campaign, which became the subject of a police investigation, was conducted with the knowledge and encouragement of NewSpring’s senior leadership."  End
http://www.pajamapages.com/holy-rage-at-the-spring-2/

I read the long article.  The author was clearly subjected to harassment by those he names and it should be subject to legal action; he doesn't indicate that it was, except for his reporting to LE.  However, he wanted to settle for a very large amount of money, which I find to be questionable.

I've read elsewhere online that Perry Noble isn't a respected Man of God in many quarters.

IMO, many of these mega-church ministers are in it for the money; I read that another pastor at NewSpring had built something like an over-a-million-dollar house, although he wouldn't disclose the exact amount, but indicated that God wanted him to have such financial fruits.  

Many mega-churches aren't religious or spiritual as much as they are businesses, IMO.

I believe that Davey's goal is to pastor a mega-church and I don't believe it's so much to do with bringing souls to Jesus as it is to bring dollars into his personal coffers.

That Amanda ended up with Davey is a tragedy, IMO; she truly loved her religion and her concept of God and salvation.  I believe she was a true giver, and I believe that Davey is a true taker.

ETA - the minister I reference is with Elevation Church, which I believe is an offshoot of NewSpring ??? If not, just consider my reference to be towards ministers of mega-churches in general.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article9092012.html

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Post by Freckles on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:48 am

DB, IMO, is stuck on how great HE is--- not how great the Lord is.
He is using God, Jesus, and salvation for DB's own purpose.
DB is even willing to use his wife, his son to advance DB's own agenda.

Trust me. DB WILL find justice...
There are lessons in life to be learned and DB will discover the penalties for misusing the talents gifted by God.
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Post by Freckles on Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:06 pm

Did we miss this one?

Man accused of killing Indianapolis pastor’s pregnant wife charged in 2nd slaying

POSTED 2:20 PM, DECEMBER 30, 2015,

"....Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry announced Tuesday that 18-year-old Larry Jo Taylor Jr. has been charged with murder and robbery in the Nov. 4 fatal shooting of Rolando Gonzalez-Hernandez.

Gonzalez’s body was found next to his car at an apartment complex...."

"...Taylor and 21-year-old co-defendant Jalen Watson face murder charges in the Nov. 10 shooting death of 28-year-old pastor’s wife Amanda Blackburn.

They also face burglary and other charges in a Nov. 3 home invasion where a woman was raped...."

http://pix11.com/2015/12/30/man-accused-of-killing-indianapolis-pastors-pregnant-wife-charged-in-2nd-slaying/

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My error! On Jan 13 and Jan 17 the above information WAS shared! There is even surveillance film showing the 3 defendants on the earlier Nov incident.
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Post by Nan11 on Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:41 pm

Freckles wrote:Did we miss this one?

Man accused of killing Indianapolis pastor’s pregnant wife charged in 2nd slaying

POSTED 2:20 PM, DECEMBER 30, 2015,

"....Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry announced Tuesday that 18-year-old Larry Jo Taylor Jr. has been charged with murder and robbery in the Nov. 4 fatal shooting of Rolando Gonzalez-Hernandez.

Gonzalez’s body was found next to his car at an apartment complex...."

"...Taylor and 21-year-old co-defendant Jalen Watson face murder charges in the Nov. 10 shooting death of 28-year-old pastor’s wife Amanda Blackburn.

They also face burglary and other charges in a Nov. 3 home invasion where a woman was raped...."

http://pix11.com/2015/12/30/man-accused-of-killing-indianapolis-pastors-pregnant-wife-charged-in-2nd-slaying/

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My error! On Jan 13 and Jan 17 the above information WAS shared! There is even surveillance film showing the 3 defendants on the earlier Nov  incident.
Mr. Larry Jo Taylor, Jr has now been charged in three separate cases.

I'm having trouble keeping them all straight.

Rape case:  Nov. 3/15  |  Larry Jo Taylor, Jr & Jalen Watson charged - multiple counts

Shooting death:  Nov. 4/15  |  only Larry Jo Taylor charged

Amanda's case:  Nov. 10/15  |  Larry Jo Taylor, Jr; Jalen Watson; & Diano Gordon - multiple counts for all 3, including murder

These are bad, bad, bad characters.  Members of The Kilt Gang.

Kilt is not a typo--apparently it is modern day slang for Killed.

It is sad how all info on this case is drying up.  There is a hearing scheduled for all 3 in March, but if it is anything like the last hearing in January, we will be lucky if there is a small mention of it.

Very good news for the pastor, though.
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Post by Freckles on Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:03 am

Thanks, Nan.

I, too, am having difficulty keeping the names and events separate.
These three are very evil and dangerous.
For some reason, just a hinky feeling, I do think DB was hooked up with them.
His statements, after Amanda was murdered, regarding how he would offer forgiveness, blah-blah, underscores that hinky feeling.
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Post by crimeq on Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:39 pm

Freckles wrote:Thanks, Nan.

I, too, am having difficulty keeping the names and events separate.
These three are very evil and dangerous.
For some reason, just a hinky feeling, I do think DB was hooked up with them.
His statements, after Amanda was murdered, regarding how he would offer forgiveness, blah-blah, underscores that hinky feeling.

I too find it very odd that DB was so willing to offer forgiveness to these 3 perpetrators, especially since not long before Amanda's murder, he gave a sermon in which he made it clear that he would not take kindly to anyone threatening his home. It might have been in his "Mistress Grill" sermon; I'm not sure. In that sermon, he indicated that he had a gun in his home and would not hesitate to use it against an intruder.

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Post by Nan11 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:32 pm

I think many people are struggling with Blackburn's religious beliefs.

Snipped quote:  I’ve held off writing about this story for more than a month, because I can’t quite grasp the joy Davey Blackburn feels in hoping the three ... killers of his wife and unborn child have a positive meeting with Jesus.
http://www.breakingnewsblast.com/amanda-blackburn-killers-all-charged-with-murder/

Personally, the following explanation sits as about right with me:

Snipped unofficial transcript from video:  Number 3, he [Blackburn] says:  “that Jesus would give me and our family a heart of forgiveness.”

Let me first say my heart goes out to this man and his family; Amanda’s family—her father and mother.  This must be absolutely just impossible to deal with.  I don’t even know them and my heart goes out to them.  I can feel a sense of sadness for them.

…But forgiveness—once you repent of your anger; once you repent of your pride; your judgement; and then God forgives you because you have forgiven others and you are born again of God—you naturally live a life of forgiveness.  It becomes that way for you.  There is never another thought about hating anyone or anything.  And forgiveness is the love of God operating through you.

And, so, when things happen in life that are quote, unquote, bad; you want the punishment done.  You want the criminal to be punished for what they have done.  You just don’t hate them for it.

And you do not have to remind yourself every day, when you wake up, to forgive.  Forgiveness—because you have the nature, or the identity of God now operating through you—forgiveness is just a way of life.

And yet you can be firm, and stern; and insist that these people are punished.

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn-to-forgive-or-punish-evil/#comments_open
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Post by Freckles on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:23 pm

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn-to-forgive-or-punish-evil/#comments_open

"....Amanda’s family—her father and mother. This must be absolutely just impossible to deal with. I don’t even know them and my heart goes out to them. I can feel a sense of sadness for them...."

He had years to know them and he never took the time?

I have little difficulty dealing with the concept of forgiveness EXCEPT when it is used to deflect from another issue. IMO, he is using emotion, God, etc., to deflect from the murder of his wife. He does not give straight and truthful answers without first invoking his "Godliness" state. That is his attempt to control, direct the conversation and his answers. "Woe is me! Poor, pathetic me! Job was my mentor and Jesus is MY savior, my forgiver of MY sins...Someday, we will all be in God's heaven together..."
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crimeq wrote:I too find it very odd that DB was so willing to offer forgiveness to these 3 perpetrators, especially since not long before Amanda's murder, he gave a sermon in which he made it clear that he would not take kindly to anyone threatening his home.  It might have been in his "Mistress Grill" sermon; I'm not sure.  In that sermon, he indicated that he had a gun in his home and would not hesitate to use it against an intruder.
BBM - Yup, he certainly did.  (Sorry to be so long in responding--it took me ages to find the video.)

And what are the odds that when someone did break into his house, his sweet, beautiful, pregnant wife; baby son; and Mel, the dog; would be there without him?  Did he make a habit of leaving without locking the door behind himself, thinking the gun could take care of things on its own?

Thinking of this, it makes me strongly suspect that Amanda had been tied up--or duct taped up--when Taylor, Jr. ran next door to throw her bank card(s) in the Sebring.  Anyone in her situation would have crawled to get their husband's gun to try to defend themselves.  I feel the window of opportunity was there had she not been restrained.  I doubt they would have trusted that she was unconscious.

Transcript snipped an quoted by me:  At about 16:30 minutes in:

Davey:  Now, quick question, how do you think Barnabas felt about Saul at that moment?  I’d be ticked.  Like livid.  Like blood for blood; out for revenge; get me my Glock; I’m putting a cap in his head.

Okay—would we not—I mean, is it okay for a pastor to admit that?

Man, I’m just like you.  I want revenge just as much as anybody else.  But we are going to see in a second how Barnabas responded.



At about 24:30 minutes in:

Davey:  Now, I think that “afraid” is a little bit of a weak translation.  I think it’s like they were ready to get some blood.  Okay. Like afraid as if someone were to break into my house.  Oh, I’m afraid—but I got my gun right next to me.  Okay?

Listen, some of you are like:  “Well, I believe in gun control.”  {Davey laughs}  So do I.  You break into my house; I have a gun; I will control you with it.  Okay?  {More laughter from Davey}  Just sayin’.

Resonate Church; Change Week 3 – Change My Relationships
Recorded during service:  February 22, 2015
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Post by Nan11 on Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:49 am

Freckles wrote:http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn-to-forgive-or-punish-evil/#comments_open

"....Amanda’s family—her father and mother.  This must be absolutely just impossible to deal with.  I don’t even know them and my heart goes out to them.  I can feel a sense of sadness for them...."

He had years to know them and he never took the time?

I have little difficulty dealing with the concept of forgiveness EXCEPT when it is used to deflect from another issue. IMO, he is using emotion, God, etc., to deflect from the murder of his wife. He does not give straight and truthful answers without first invoking his "Godliness" state. That is his attempt to control, direct the conversation and his answers. "Woe is me! Poor, pathetic me! Job was my mentor and Jesus is MY savior, my forgiver of MY sins...Someday, we will all be in God's heaven together..."
BBM -Whenever I watch one of his sermons, I wish I could get a glimpse of his audience.  I think they are mostly young folks, but I wonder of what color and financial standing.

I can see that he is very talented and good at what he does; but I can also see him appealing to the type of young men that are charged with the murder of his wife.

I Googled mapped some of the addresses:  the rape; the first homicide; Amanda's homicide; the burglaries; the home addresses for the three charged; Resonate Church--all these places are within a relatively close radius to each other.

It begs the question--had any members of the church reached out to any members of the Kilt gang?
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Post by Nan11 on Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:18 am

This is one of the most frustrating cases ever.

All three were due to appear in court this past Friday, March 4/16.  I can find several links to support this; however, there does not seem to be even one with an update as to what occurred at the hearing.

There is a video at the link below; and at the very end, it reminds us all to check back later in the evening.  I have checked back several times, and there is nothing.

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Snipped quote:  The three men charged in a series of violent crimes last fall, including the murder of Amanda Blackburn, are due in court.

Larry Taylor Junior, Jalen Watson, and Diano Gordon are scheduled to appear before a judge Friday.
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checking in to see if there are updates
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Post by crimeq on Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:52 pm

New Statement Analysis from Peter Hyatt

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/davey-blackburns-blog-entry.html

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And this ...

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/showering-and-water-in-statements.html

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Post by crimeq on Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:54 pm

Randie wrote:checking in to see if there are updates

Nice to see you, Randie!

I just added links for a couple of new Peter Hyatt Statement Analyses. I'm glad to see that Peter hasn't let go of this (and by reading his content, it's clear that he really hasn't let Davey out of his sights!).

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Pastor husband of Amanda Blackburn is writing a book

Sara Salinas, The Indianapolis Star , WXIA 9:06 AM. EDT July 23, 2016

INDIANAPOLIS — Davey Blackburn appears to be writing a book.

The husband of Amanda Blackburn — killed in her Indianapolis home in November — posted a picture of an outline for his book on his Instagram account Monday, with the caption, "This is overwhelmingly surreal! Praying what comes of this helps many, many people!!"

Read more:  http://www.11alive.com/news/nation-now/pastor-husband-of-amanda-blackburn-is-writing-a-book/280087965
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Post by Nan11 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:55 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Pastor husband of Amanda Blackburn is writing a book

Sara Salinas, The Indianapolis Star , WXIA 9:06 AM. EDT July 23, 2016

INDIANAPOLIS — Davey Blackburn appears to be writing a book.

The husband of Amanda Blackburn — killed in her Indianapolis home in November — posted a picture of an outline for his book on his Instagram account Monday, with the caption, "This is overwhelmingly surreal! Praying what comes of this helps many, many people!!"

Read more:  http://www.11alive.com/news/nation-now/pastor-husband-of-amanda-blackburn-is-writing-a-book/280087965

Snort. Great big snort. The only person he wants to help is himself. You know, by "growing" his church as he fills his pockets. imo
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Post by One Wonders on Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:06 pm

Nan11 wrote:
CuriousPortlander wrote:
Pastor husband of Amanda Blackburn is writing a book

Sara Salinas, The Indianapolis Star , WXIA 9:06 AM. EDT July 23, 2016

INDIANAPOLIS — Davey Blackburn appears to be writing a book.

The husband of Amanda Blackburn — killed in her Indianapolis home in November — posted a picture of an outline for his book on his Instagram account Monday, with the caption, "This is overwhelmingly surreal! Praying what comes of this helps many, many people!!"

Read more:  http://www.11alive.com/news/nation-now/pastor-husband-of-amanda-blackburn-is-writing-a-book/280087965

Snort.  Great big snort.  The only person he wants to help is himself.  You know, by "growing" his church as he fills his pockets.  imo
I absolutely agree Nan!
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